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Old 02-04-2007, 03:55 PM
neff neff is offline
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Default 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

Just sat down about 20 hands ago. Villian seems solid, hasn't gotten out of line. I've been solid and haven't gotten out of line myself, raising and cbetting with relative success. Would a raise of 140 or so do the same thing?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $405.80
UTG+1: $94
CO: $106
Hero: $489.90
SB: $467
BB: $362.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($42, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $34</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($110, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($110, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $441.9</font>
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

Representing what ?
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:04 PM
KEWL KEWL is offline
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

i like this move better if you fired on the turn
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:07 PM
neff neff is offline
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

Is not firing on the turn the worst part of the hand?
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

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Is not firing on the turn the worst part of the hand?

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a combination of not firing on the turn then shoving the river is the worst part of this hand. but i would bet that turn way more than i would check it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:34 PM
nuggetz87 nuggetz87 is offline
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

i don't think it's as bad as you guys are saying. 99 and 78 are both believable. i think it's fine. i don't think i would bet turn either.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:00 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

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Representing what ?

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the nuts, obviously. (7-8)

just a question of whether or not villain believes hero.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:16 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

Wait, what?

Bet the turn.

As played, you have a hand you can showdown, call riv.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

Why??
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 400nl nut flush draw...smart, spew, or neither?

Turn bet here would be key to the river move. I think this river shove is entirely unnecessary, you can either wave the white flag or make it $150 and get the same result as you would have making it $442. Your opponent's line here is odd, but IMO you get called fairly frequently and the resulting stack off is obviously uglyyyyyyyy.
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