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5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why so?
5/10 full ring online LHE. No read on villain, other than me not noticing him doing anything out of the ordinary/standard. I am most interested in the river action. I am interested in HU value betting with 4 to a flush on the board and no flush in our hands.
Preflop: Hero is dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the H/J. Folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls. Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls. Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls. River: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. BB checks, Hero... Also, what if the BB had Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? Should he have donk-bet the river? |
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why so?
i would check behind, because if we bet/fold, i am somewhat uncertain as to what villain would be calling with that we beat, frankly. first to act i can see the clarkmeister but last to act i am happy to check behind. i guess if we bet it he might call with a king or some kind of pocket pair but i think that it is unlikely. it's also somewhat possible that he has the flush and may wait to checkraise us.
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
Hmmm tricky. I'd probably check behind... although there are still a lot of hands that we beat and that might call. I just don't want to b/f with trips. Or having a bluff induced when he holds a low heart. OOP I'd probably bet.
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
i'd check behind too. i wouldn't be able to fold to a raise w/ no read if i bet.
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
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I just don't want to b/f with trips. Or having a bluff induced when he holds a low heart. [/ QUOTE ] This is a separate problem. If betting is profitable, it's profitable. It doesn't matter if he might raise. Whether to call a raise becomes another problem to solve. If you are convinced betting is profitable, you should bet. |
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
But then you must include the possibility of being raised in your betting profatibility assumption. That is why they pick 55% of calling hands you beat and not 50%.
I don't think you should be blind to future action. It is probably ok to give up a small edge to avoid potentially making a big mistake later. Unless you already include that mistake, and betting is still profitable. Then it doesn't matter. Anyway, I'm convinced. A bet is probably better. I was just thinking which hands he would check. Certainly not a heart, right? |
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
I agree with what you're saying. If you're thinking is that you don't want to be because, taking into account future action, you don't think it's profitable, that's correct. If you're thinking was, "I think betting is probably profitable, but it would really suck if I got raised" that's different (which is how I took your comment).
Sorry if I misread your idea. |
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
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Certainly not a heart, right? [/ QUOTE ] I would check probably any heart. Maybe not A. |
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why s
I check behind on this river. I just don't think your villain has many calling hands that we are ahead of.
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Re: 5/10. QTs. Should we bet this river? If not, why not? If so, why so?
bet. he'll still call with any pair and i really don't see you getting bluffed very often on a paired board with a 4flush on it. i bet two pair in that spot, so i'll bet trips as well.
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