2-4 KK

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UB full ring

folded to me in MP3 I Raise KK ... CO 3ball ... folded to me I cap.

CO is a little loose and not super aggressive (nor a big pre flop raiser ... 24/3/1.0)

FLOP is low and rainbow ... 874

I bet, he raises, i 3bet, he calls

TURN .. Q

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pretty much I felt this was the 'best' card in the deck for me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
I pretty much just wanted to check and fold ... (the only thing I beat is JJ)

[mojobluesman]

If you check, he's liable to bet JJ. I would call down. The pot is already fairly large.

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more or less I'm:

bet folding ... or check calling

[VirgilStarkwell]

I think there's a reasonable chance this guy's hand is as weak as AK or maybe even AQ. I don't think AA-JJ are the only explanations for the flop raise.

I'd want to show down KK so that part of me says call down turn and river.

But I think there is still a good chance you have the best hand and that you can win it for one bet here. Plus betting is marginally cheaper than calling down, since you're right to fold to a raise. But his flop call makes me think he'll fold. If he calls, then check/call river.

[bozlax]

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more or less I'm:

bet folding ... or check calling

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More or less? What are your other options? Check/fold? So, more or less you're taking one of two of the three possible options? Hmm, that leaves bet/raise and bet/call out in the cold a bit, doesn't it?

Seriously, this isn't a very interesting hand. If you want to generate some traffic, give us something to talk about...maybe some hand ranges? Otherwise, you're WA/WB...you're losing to AA/QQ, you're beating JJ/TT, and you're pushing with the other KK. Check/call the turn, bet/fold the river.

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more or less I'm:

bet folding ... or check calling

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More or less? What are your other options? Check/fold? So, more or less you're taking one of two of the three possible options? Hmm, that leaves bet/raise and bet/call out in the cold a bit, doesn't it?

Seriously, this isn't a very interesting hand. If you want to generate some traffic, give us something to talk about...maybe some hand ranges? Otherwise, you're WA/WB...you're losing to AA/QQ, you're beating JJ/TT, and you're pushing with the other KK. Check/call the turn, bet/fold the river.

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already stated the range ... I said I'm only beating JJ (so ... AA-JJ)... AK is a no - I don't think it's likely he raises me with AK pre flop then raise the flop after I cap.

more or less means --> I would have liked to either b/f or call down ... in the hand I bet and called down.

[MrWookie]

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more or less I'm:

bet folding ... or check calling

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More or less? What are your other options? Check/fold? So, more or less you're taking one of two of the three possible options? Hmm, that leaves bet/raise and bet/call out in the cold a bit, doesn't it?

Seriously, this isn't a very interesting hand. If you want to generate some traffic, give us something to talk about...maybe some hand ranges? Otherwise, you're WA/WB...you're losing to AA/QQ, you're beating JJ/TT, and you're pushing with the other KK. Check/call the turn, bet/fold the river.

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boz,

I've been drinking, but you for get teho old c/r! I'm to sexy for this hand, this hand, this hand, too sexy in this land!!!

[BigBadBabar]

wtf how can you consider folding this

[bozlax]

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I've been drinking, but you for get teho old c/r! I'm to sexy for this hand, this hand, this hand, too sexy in this land!!!

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I didn't forget, Wook, I just figured that was out of the question as the OP stated he wanted to check and fold the turn.

[mojobluesman]

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more or less I'm:

bet folding ... or check calling

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More or less? What are your other options? Check/fold? So, more or less you're taking one of two of the three possible options? Hmm, that leaves bet/raise and bet/call out in the cold a bit, doesn't it?

Seriously, this isn't a very interesting hand. If you want to generate some traffic, give us something to talk about...maybe some hand ranges? Otherwise, you're WA/WB...you're losing to AA/QQ, you're beating JJ/TT, and you're pushing with the other KK. Check/call the turn, bet/fold the river.

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Why bet/fold the river?

I can see that you might want to make sure you get a bet in on the river in case you are ahead, but I'm thinking he's going to bet the river the majority of the time anyway and I'd like to see what he has instead of folding to the raise. By check/calling, you also eliminate the small risk that he'd raise with a worse hand or bluff.

If you are going to fold the river to a raise, why not just bet/fold the turn and get it over with.