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Old 01-18-2007, 06:09 PM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default How to counterattack shortstacks

I have been playing NL10 6max on Titan lately, and it is full of short stack. And short as in 1 dollar or less.
What are the do's and donts against those shorties. When u "stack" lol them, they buy in for the same amount. Just find another table?? or is there a way to make a profit of these guys? implied odds are of no importance i guess.
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

if they are employing a short stack strategy, like ed millers, you really can't do anything. Just steal their blinds, they'll rarely fight back.

If they are playing loose and short, just 3 bet AI with good hands.
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

if there are more than 2 <25bb stacks at the table I usually leave unless the table is sick good.

and dont make poor calls w/ 2nd pair, etc "just b/c he's short"
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

If you have the odds to chase go for it. The but realize a smart short player is deliberately trying to restrict the action to two streets, preflop and flop. You'll have hte odsd to chase often, but you'll be behind a lot.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

I dont think this are the good shortstack players. These people just want to take less risk.
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

what you try and do to them: flop any decent pair+ and stack 'em

what they try to do to you: flop any pair and c-r you ai

iow - be very very carefully c-betting vs. short stacks.... i mean they'll fold, but they'll rr or c-r ai pretty often, so make sure you know what to do ahead of time if they do

ps: oh yeah, most short stacks suck.... Ace high is often a call vs. the really bad ones
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Sean Fraley Sean Fraley is offline
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

I've always found that the best way to counter-attack shortstacks is this:

1) 40 lashes with a cat-o-nine-tails (not the let's get kinky in bed type, but the Passion of the Christ type).

2) Douse them in kerosene.

3) Apply open flame.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

Shoot the hostage.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: How to counterattack shortstacks

There are two prototypical types of short-stacked players: the cowards and the maniacs. It rarely takes long to figure out which one you're dealing with.

The cowards play an absolutely nittish game, often with a single-digit VPIP and a PFR that matches it. These are the guys who are either folding preflop or all-in on any flop. You want these guys sitting on your immediate left so that you can have the button twice as often (they'll fold nearly always, even from the button) and so that you can make some nice money stealing all their tasty blinds (which they will let go for a raise almost always). Pressure them a little bit and they'll crumble; if they happen to push back, fold and do the same thing the next time. And the time after that. And the time after that....

The maniacs are push-monkeys. They're mixing it up all the time, raising wildly, calling all sorts of raises, open-pushing most flops but folding flops quite often if pressured. These guys you'd like to have sitting on your right, so you can see what they do before you have to act. Against these folks, wait for a decent hand (A8+ suited or unsuited or any pocket pair) and be prepared to get it all-in preflop. In fact, your approach should be one that lets you get all-in preflop so that you can extract maximum value with your decent hands. Be ready for a rollercoaster, because pushing preflop is always high variance. Luckily their stack size is small, so you won't be risking quite as much.
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