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Old 01-17-2007, 12:54 AM
Absolution Absolution is offline
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Default KK against a calling station

This guy plays every hand and can be aggressive.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

I think this is a good fold. On the flop he could be check-raising with a Q, A8, a four-flush, a PP, or a monster. I don't think he's check-raising you again with a hand you beat (1/5.5 times to justify a call-down) once that second Q falls. If he did... then NH by him.
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

Check the turn or calldown the CR
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Old 01-17-2007, 01:59 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

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Old 01-17-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

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I understood it as loose PF and occasionally aggressive post-flop... either way I'm interested in why this is B/C (what is villain CRing x2 with if he's usually passive) or a defensive check (we don't want to give him a free card with his potential draws) rather than B/F.
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

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Yeah, this is what I'm thinking too. I agree with Brad. Check the turn behind or call down the c/r.
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Old 01-17-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

A great spot to induce a bluff. I think you should check behind and call one on the river. Bet if you are checked to on the river.
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

A very tricky one. But I'm calling the turn, check/calling the River.

The 2nd Queen falling is just too good a spot to bluff on. Especially as the Villain has been SO aggressive up until now. A raise here could be his last throw of the Dice.

I entered a pot last night, I hit absolutely nothing on the Flop. But an Ace had fallen. I checked through, and the second Ace fell on the Turn. I bluffed at it, and sure enough, he folded.
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

Grunch

I think you played it fine up to the river. It certainly looks like he was representing AQs. I would expect him to cap the flop if he flopped a set.

I would call the river though - getting 9.75:1 and your read on him being aggressive. If he would bluff this hand more than one in ten times you are still +EV

0.9*-1 + 0.1*9.75 = -0.9+0.975 = 0.075

(Not sure if this logic is correct though!)
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Old 01-17-2007, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: KK against a calling station

Problem is, that if you're calling him down, you'll likely have to call one on the river as well, cutting your odds from 9.75:1 to 11.75:2 or ~6:1...
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