ATs fishmax playalong

[bozlax]

I haven't done a playalong in a while. Let's see how this goes. Preflop is definitely not the most interesting part of this hand, but I'm sure it will generate some discussion.

No reads.

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Preflop: Brian is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Brian ?

[fretelöo]

Calls. What else? You don't fold anyone out; against the normal range of a SB raise, you're definitely not raising for value.

[kerowo]

If the chances of isolating the SB with a 3-bet are above average I'd say 3-bet, but probably I'm just calling.

[Buzz-cp]

let's see the flop action

Buzz

[bravos1]

I'm 3betting here many times. If it our first hand, 3betting can be good even if we get caught by a better hand.. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

edit : Did you edit your post from when you first put it up. I did not see the BTN or CO limp the first time. 5 handed w/ SB raising.. ATs is a call.

[bozlax]

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let's see the flop action

Buzz

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Yeah, like I said, preflop not interesting, but worthy of discussion. I had no idea if I'd be able to isolate SB, but given the nature of 1/2 fishmax I thought it unlikely.

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Preflop: Brian is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Brian calls, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Brian ?

What do you do and what's your plan?

[Buzz-cp]

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Flop: (10 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Brian ?

What do you do and what's your plan?

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Could be a good time to clean up outs.

[MrWookie]

Preflop is a call.

I guess I'll cut to the heart of the matter immediately by asking subsequent responders to estimate the following:

How often will SB fold AK here if we raise?

How often does someone else out here have a better A (AJ, AQ, AK, A7, A3)?

How often will someone fold a better A for two bets, and how often would they have folded for just one?

[mvoss]

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How often will SB fold AK here if we raise?


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Since I'm not allowed to say never I'll say less than 5% of the time.

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How often does someone else out here have a better A (AJ, AQ, AK, A7, A3)?


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I'm too stupid to answer this question.

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How often will someone fold a better A for two bets, and how often would they have folded for just one?

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AK and AQ aren't going anywhere. AJ will get folded more frequently for two bets than for one. A7 and A3 are very rarely folding in a pot this big even for two bets.

Edited cause I'm an idiot.

[VickreyAuction]

I call.