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Old 01-08-2007, 08:52 AM
eviljeff eviljeff is offline
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Default 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BB: $124.5
Hero (CO): $199
BTN: $216.35
SB: $514.7

flop donk bettor is a donk.
SB is TakeUrCheese, a 21/14/5 regular who I don't have much history with

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 4 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7 K 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($24, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10, <font color="red">SB raises to $26</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80</font>
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

You know this is bad because it isnt like he is c/ring your cbet, theres a bet and a call and he c/r small - realllly unlikely that he is bluffing at this. Take the nice odds that he is giving you and stack his set.
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

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Take the nice odds that he is giving you and stack his set.

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Old 01-08-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

please call me weak, but i fold after the SB minraise (what do you guys think you are ahead of?????)
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

So, let's imagine for a second the turn is a 5 or a T, what are we behind of?
How much will that hand that we were NOT ahead of on the flop be willing pay to see the river?

C'mon, think implied odds, baby.
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

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So, let's imagine for a second the turn is a 5 or a T, what are we behind of?
How much will that hand that we were NOT ahead of on the flop be willing pay to see the river?

C'mon, think implied odds, baby.

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Played with this guy just now and he is super aggro (21/19/11 over 114 hands), seems to be looking for double up hands and folding others. If he calls your raise or pushes, 100% he's got a set I think - and he may very well pay the straight off as a set would be one of the double up hands he's after.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

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please call me weak, but i fold after the SB minraise (what do you guys think you are ahead of?????)

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You don't need to currently be ahead to profitably call a bet.

For instance A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] vs T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on a 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is currently "behind" but a favorite to win the pot in the end so it would be a mistake to fold to an all-in bet.

In this case, hero is getting almost direct pot odds and extremely nice implied odds to draw to his straight and should call.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

just call flop
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:03 AM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

I dont like betting this from the CO PF.

As played, you have no fold equity and are just getting your money in with the worst of it.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: 200nl: berate my flop 3bet semibluff

This is bad. No FE.
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