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Old 01-07-2007, 09:08 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Did I miss a value shove here?

Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $200
Hero: $1.416
SB: $1.072
BB: $893.50

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $45</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($105, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $99</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($303, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $250</font>, BB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($803, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $803


Villain is 40/20, I've 3 bet him a few times and taken a few flops with him, but nothing major.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

ive seen bad river checks...but whoa. shove river all day and twice on weekends.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:15 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

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ive seen bad river checks...but whoa. shove river all day and twice on weekends.

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You're probably right, but I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I think he always 3 bets pre with AK, and maybe KQ too. I doubt he calls a push with KT or worse. So while I'm ahead here like 90-95% of the time, I don't know what I'm going to get called by, except maybe exactly KQ. Factor in the times I run into a slowplayed monster or whatever and I'm not sure it's that bad.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:19 PM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

i think it's funny that u think he would ever fold a king here. i could see this guy calling with a jack. just try to manufacture a hand that beats you, i certaintly can't. maybe you see 22 &lt;2% of the time or something.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:37 PM
Senor Choppy Senor Choppy is offline
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

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So while I'm ahead here like 90-95% of the time, I don't know what I'm going to get called by,

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I don't think this really applies when the pot is $800 and villain only has $500 left.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

Yes.
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Old 01-07-2007, 09:15 PM
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yes
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:12 PM
Get_better_Baris Get_better_Baris is offline
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

Wtf,shove all day for me
Also you don't have to go all in everytime the pot is is over your stack. Bet whatever u think he will call with his range if its not a shove, then bet 15 bucks or 250 whatever, but u gotta get some more value.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

Villain almost never folds any made hand he c/c'd two streets w/, getting 13 to 5. If KT or worse c/c'd two streets, it tells you how villain values KT or worse - he thinks it's good. Villain is assuredly going to the felt w/ any made hand he has.
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Did I miss a value shove here?

shove.
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