2/4, Am I getting bluffed?

Tokyo!! · #1 01-05-2007, 04:31 PM

Villain is bufo523, 22.3/18/3.6 regular winner. I can't really put him on a hand here except AcXc I suppose b/c there was no c-bet. We don't have a bluffing history, and I'm pretty sure he gives me some respect and views me as definite TAG. It's push/fold imo, but which?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($400)
CO ($80.20)
Button ($253)
SB ($96)
Hero ($400)
UTG ($119.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $4.
1 fold, MP raises to $20, 1 fold, Button calls $20, 1 fold, Hero calls $16.

Flop: ($66) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($66) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $48, MP raises to $155, Button folds, Hero ???

Megenoita · #2 01-05-2007, 05:09 PM

It's def. not push/fold b/c if he's bluffing air he might give up on the river, but I'd just pitch it.

JP OSU · #3 01-05-2007, 05:14 PM

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I'd just pitch it.

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Tokyo!! · #4 01-05-2007, 05:23 PM

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It's def. not push/fold b/c if he's bluffing air he might give up on the river, but I'd just pitch it.

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If he's bluffing, I don't want him to keep bluffing because I can't call, and I dunno if he'll give up after being called.

Fisher32 · #5 01-05-2007, 06:07 PM

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It's def. not push/fold b/c if he's bluffing air he might give up on the river, but I'd just pitch it.

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If he's bluffing, I don't want him to keep bluffing because I can't call, and I dunno if he'll give up after being called.

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You have a great point here, and for that reason you should chuck it. Unless you feel like gambling, chances are good he does'nt have any clubs in his hand. If you spike a club on the river, your huge.

David1234 · #6 01-06-2007, 04:39 AM

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It's def. not push/fold b/c if he's bluffing air he might give up on the river, but I'd just pitch it.

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If he's bluffing, I don't want him to keep bluffing because I can't call, and I dunno if he'll give up after being called.

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this is not a reason weather its a push/fold situation, all the facts that you stated should lead to show you how bad pushing is and how folding is good. And about pushing, because there is no way u can call because you dont know if he can bluff you, it doesnt make sense because the money is still getting in there regardless if he is on air or not, its just about being scared to face another decision on the river which is understandable but points to a fold

aba20 · #7 01-06-2007, 05:13 AM

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If he's bluffing, I don't want him to keep bluffing because I can't call, and I dunno if he'll give up after being called.

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There are alot of people I would just call here. Against an agro tricky player I often just call and close my eyes and call any river. I used to think this also about stopping peopl from bluffing but its okay to let people bluff even when you have a marginal hand, you just have to be willing to call the river.

callme · #8 01-05-2007, 07:03 PM

He raises 155 into a 110 pot - not even cares about button who is short (and the board just paired so you "possible" flush might be toast) - nah, get out of there! After the bet he almost put half his stack in, and i dont think he will stop at the river if you call here.

Tokyo!! · #9 01-05-2007, 08:29 PM

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He raises 155 into a 110 pot - not even cares about button who is short (and the board just paired so you "possible" flush might be toast) - nah, get out of there! After the bet he almost put half his stack in, and i dont think he will stop at the river if you call here.

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I'm like 95% sure he bets flop with JJ, 77, 44, QQ+, Jx. He doesn't have a full house. I think its flopped flush or nothing, but I can't figure out which.

smartalecc5 · #10 01-05-2007, 09:59 PM

bufo gives me troubles