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Old 12-28-2006, 03:27 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default JJ 3bet and in position

I'm 3betting more these days preflop, to good effect. Which means I need to get better in 3b pots. So, here's a hand.

Villian is RealTired. He's multitabling, but I haven't really noticed him as being a good player. I would say he's OK I suppose as a general impression. Thoughts on flop check? River action? Comments welcome.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $237.55
CO: $163.85
Hero: $392.80
SB: $370.05
BB: $120.65

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $30</font>, Hero calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($111, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero...
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

The only hand he could have that beats you is QQ, played timidly based on your preflop 3bet. I'm value betting 1/2 pot here. Your flop check probably confused him and might convince him you have AK unimproved.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

I dont see why you checked behind the flop. This is an advantageous board to you, but at the same time quite draw heavy. I'd make a nice size bet on the flop and see where it takes me. As played, I'm not sure what he calls you with on the river that you beat, but maybe AK and some smaller PPs.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

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II'm not sure what he calls you with on the river that you beat, but maybe AK and some smaller PPs.

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Yep, 88, 77, 66, 55...
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

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II'm not sure what he calls you with on the river that you beat, but maybe AK and some smaller PPs.

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Yep, 88, 77, 66, 55...

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Those are all pretty bad calls. Does he think AJ checked flop to float turn and bluff river?
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

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II'm not sure what he calls you with on the river that you beat, but maybe AK and some smaller PPs.

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Yep, 88, 77, 66, 55...

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Those are all pretty bad calls. Does he think AJ checked flop to float turn and bluff river?

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Isura,

I'm not arguing they are good calls, but I see them made plenty.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

Then 60% of pot is probably a fine river bet. Especially if there's little chance of us betting bluff c/r because it looks like we have only 1 pair.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

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II'm not sure what he calls you with on the river that you beat, but maybe AK and some smaller PPs.

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Yep, 88, 77, 66, 55...

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Those are all pretty bad calls. Does he think AJ checked flop to float turn and bluff river?

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Isura,

I'm not arguing they are good calls, but I see them made plenty.

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Agreed.
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet and in position

Value bet v smaller pps.

Paul
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:37 PM
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