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Old 12-28-2006, 12:38 AM
Langerz Langerz is offline
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Default Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

Villian is fishy 64/5.7/0.33. With a 0.33 AF and only a 4.25 BB pot I'm pretty sure the river is a fold. I guess my question is should have I fired again on the turn? I checked since he was a calling station and I'm probably not folding him. His W2SD was 42%. Thoughts?

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Limit: $2/$4
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero ?
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

Easy bet/fold on the turn against this villain. You have the best hand alot on the turn.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

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Easy bet/fold on the turn against this villain. You have the best hand alot on the turn.

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I woudnt fold the nut fd here on the turn, so easy bet/call on the turn and if missed c/f
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

Oops yea
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Old 12-28-2006, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

*grunch*

You could very well have the best hand at the turn, so bet for value even if you don't improve or fold him out.

As you played it, the pot is small and his stats say a bluff is unlikely, so fold.
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Old 12-28-2006, 02:09 AM
DCWildcat DCWildcat is offline
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

Definately bet the turn, mostly for value. Also, it prevents a difficult decision like this from happening.
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Old 12-28-2006, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

Against this type of villain I'll bet the turn for value pretty much always. He'll call that flop with all kinds of crap. After that you can check behind the river UI.

As played even the most passive of calling stations will take stabs at you. Betting the turn and checking behind on the river will prevent you from being pushed off the best hand.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

I like a turn bet because he probably doesn't have anything with the board looking like this. That means that when you give a free card he's got like 6+ outs to beat you unless he is reverse dominated.
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

iŽd bet the turn without a FD against this opponent
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: Overs and Flush Draw on Turn

I don't bet the turn against a calling station. There's a reason they call them that.

I don't mind a call on the river.

Edit: here's a leak of mine! YESSS thank you all.
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