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New Fight Question
One that could theoretically happen. I've always been told how weight makes a big difference in boxing. And I can see that if the smaller guy isn't evasive enough to avoid knockout punches. But what about otherwise. What about winning on points?
So here is my question. (And if height may be a factor, assume it isn't. But keep reach as a factor). Does Floyd Maywether beat the 25th best light heavyweight? |
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Re: New Fight Question
I don't know enough about boxing to comment on the actual question however I'd say weight also comes into play when talking about the amount of hits a fighter can absorb. Heavier fighters can also be taller and have a greater reach without giving up power and strength.
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Re: New Fight Question
A much quicker boxer with excellent footwork and equal or longer reach could win a fight against a much heavier boxer. The lighter boxer will typically be quicker and in better shape and could conceivably wear out the heavyweight to the point where a knockout is possible. He could also conceivably dance around the ring for 15 rounds darting in for the occassional jab/combo and win on points.
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In general terms, there's simply no substitute for weight. Being significantly heavier, bigger and having a longer reach keeps you better protected from whatever punches the smaller boxer throws, and over the course of a 12 round match the larger boxer will simply press towards the smaller boxer and wear him out. If the bigger boxer clinches and forces the smaller boxer to carry his weight, what can be done about that fatigue? Nothing.
With that being said, no idea on the Floyd Mayweather question. |
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If the bigger boxer clinches and forces the smaller boxer to carry his weight, what can be done about that fatigue? Nothing. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. I've only seen a handful of boxing matches in my life, but it has always seemed that the lighter fighters were much quicker and did a lot more moving around while the heavyweights got into what usually degrades to a slugfest. I think conceivably a much quicker fighter with equal reach could run circles around the heavyweight and just score a handful of points here and there. Although this may not work since I believe a boxer loses points if the judges think he's trying to avoid confrontation and not being aggressive |
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I believe a boxer loses points if the judges think he's trying to avoid confrontation and not being aggressive [/ QUOTE ] Check out the last Hagler v Hearns fight to dispel this idea. For my two penn'orth I'd say it's theoretically possible that a quicker, lighter boxer could outmanoevre a bigger, stronger opponent over the shorth term, however; over ten or twelve rounds the big hitter really only needs to get one decent shot in, enough to stun/slow down their opponent and it's all over shortly after that. My money's on the heavyweight. |
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You're obviously right, I'm just thinking about some of the old Muhammed Ali fights. In some of those the other guy doesn't even manage to land a punch while Ali just plays stick and move until he's done toying with him and goes in for the kill.
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Re: New Fight Question
i'd say so. the 25'th best LHW is far removed from the top 3 in skill level and ability- most of the time.
floyd mayweather at his best would be so much faster than the LHW that i think he would win the fight based on points. this is of course barring the LHW knocked him out. so, i'd lean towards putting my money on mayweather. something interesting here is that most of the time the guys who comprise that end of the spectrum of LHW and HW fighters are nothing more than stage hands. |
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It's hard to imagine even a mediocre LH fighter being unable to knockout Mayweather with body shots given 12 rounds to wear him down and being able to almost completely disregard defending himself. Just charging forward with his arms spread out at 45 degree angles trying to coral Mayweather, corner him, and pound and lean on him inside seems like too much.
I'd definitely pay for this fight before Mayweather/De La Hoya, though =\ |
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Re: New Fight Question
A lot depends on the power of the lighter boxer. Small but powerful boxers can cream bigger ones if their skill level is notably higher. Mayweather's skill is arguably notably higher than everyone's, at this point. But he has never been a powerful hitter.
I would give him better chances if he could take off his gloves and if he didn't have such breakable hands. He would basically need to try to end it every time he got in range or have no ropes around him, so he could stay out of range until his tremendous timing and reflexes let him choose his play. Getting backed against the ropes and having to absorb heavyweight punches would be murder on him. He just doesn't have the size to absorb it. |
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