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Old 12-08-2006, 04:36 AM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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Default A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

It also discusses free will and "appears" to wonder about it if the subject arises.

It seems inpossible I would be the first to think of this but you never know.

The entities I am speaking of are the people you talk to while you are dreaming.
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

Ever see 'waking life'?
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:59 AM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

why cant these entities be facets of my own mind

people with multiple personality disorders - are they truly separate entities/beings?
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

people you talk to while dreaming don't exist
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

How about people you talk when awake that don't exist?
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

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people you talk to while dreaming aren't machines

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Old 12-08-2006, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

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why cant these entities be facets of my own mind

people with multiple personality disorders - are they truly separate entities/beings?

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No. Discrete entities within one being.

How are those theortical non-conscious entities different than the majority of humanity? Most people seem to operate on instinct alone anyway.
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Old 01-13-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

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people with multiple personality disorders - are they truly separate entities/beings?

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No. Discrete entities within one being.


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I think it would be more accurate to say discrete entities timesharing a body, not within one being. Multiples frequently change eyeglass prescriptions, allergies, major medical issues, and pain tolerance from one personality to another.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

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It seems inpossible I would be the first to think of this but you never know.


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This idea came up in one of our SMP discusions. Seems to me I was the one who brought it up.

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Old 12-08-2006, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: A Non Conscious Entity That Passes The Turing Test.

The "non concious entity" issue aside...

I assume it should be able to fool a fully coherent human rather than a sleeping one. I think that we forget/don't realize just how not convincing stuff in our dreams is when we're not immersed in them.

If it were possible to examine the actual words spoken by a person in a dream (not what we filled in for them, or remember them saying, or sense them saying) that it would be at the least too weird to believe and possibly not even decipherable.
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