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1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
PFR (1535) is good 35/30 2p2er, loose postflop... pretty confident he can be shoving most overpairs and draws here as well as a set or top2...
SB(1750) is a loose/passive fish... not really sure what he needs to coldcall flop but i suspect he can have alot more than sets and combodraws... Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $5/$10 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $35</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($115, 3 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $115</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $375</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $1500</font>... im not really happy w/ the size of my flop raise (just calling wouldve been ok too), feel free to comment on that, but as played... call the AI getting 2.1:1 w/ sb behind? would u call w/ Tc9c? which would u rather have? |
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
You have them covered?
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
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You have them covered? [/ QUOTE ] ya also, shouldve added in OP, PFR Cbets pot on flop 100% or close regardless of board texture. |
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
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[ QUOTE ] You have them covered? [/ QUOTE ] ya also, shouldve added in OP, PFR Cbets pot on flop 100% or close regardless of board texture. [/ QUOTE ] so what does that tell you about his range? prob an overpair.. 14 outs twice getting 2:1.. prob a call if sb is folding. |
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
mmm this depends on sb imo
against utg alone id definitely rather have Tc8c if i thought SB here would almost definitely overcall the push, i would rather have Tc9c |
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
yves, seriously change your avatar.
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You have them covered? [/ QUOTE ] ya also, shouldve added in OP, PFR Cbets pot on flop 100% or close regardless of board texture. [/ QUOTE ] so what does that tell you about his range? prob an overpair.. 14 outs twice getting 2:1.. prob a call if sb is folding. [/ QUOTE ] well, sure... if sb had folded (or i somehow knew he was folding?) this would be a v easy call... if i call and sb has a bigger FD i assume he is overcalling almost always. |
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You have them covered? [/ QUOTE ] ya also, shouldve added in OP, PFR Cbets pot on flop 100% or close regardless of board texture. [/ QUOTE ] so what does that tell you about his range? prob an overpair.. 14 outs twice getting 2:1.. prob a call if sb is folding. [/ QUOTE ] well, sure... if sb had folded (or i somehow knew he was folding?) this would be a v easy call... if i call and sb has a bigger FD i assume he is overcalling almost always. [/ QUOTE ] correct, but you can be safe to assume the only thing he's making an overcall with is the nut draw.. assuming he even makes the call.. you have a pair, your chances to improve to a non-flush better hand are not too good, but holding two clubs also adds huge equity to your hand assuming nobody has a set? or am i way off? |
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Re: 1Knl. 3way flop w/ pair + FD facing a shove.
I assume based on the way you wrote this that we have them both covered.
UTG has a big overpair >>> than a set even tho he would play them the same way. Obviously we're afraid of the SB showing us a bigger FD. IME, it tends to be a draw far more often than a real hand. I think the only answer is to put the SB on 65o, UTG on AA and get your money in good. Also, i really really hate this spot, so im looking forward to reading some discussion. |
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