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Old 11-30-2006, 11:23 PM
supafrey supafrey is offline
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Default 3/6nl Bleeding river?

PokerStars Game #7246387411: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2006/11/30 - 22:16:03 (ET)
Table 'Donnera II' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: jesussaveu ($644 in chips)
Seat 2: pavelzzz ($646.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Raidan909 ($600 in chips)
Seat 4: smokijas ($591 in chips)
Seat 5: tcorlando ($523 in chips)
Seat 6: steveg12 ($498.45 in chips)
Seat 7: vandyke67 ($482.10 in chips)
Seat 8: bryanboyd ($656.40 in chips)
Seat 9: Gokho ($591 in chips)
jesussaveu: posts small blind $3
pavelzzz: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pavelzzz [Td Kc]
Raidan909: folds
Raidan909 is sitting out
smokijas: folds
tcorlando: calls $6
steveg12: folds
vandyke67: calls $6
bryanboyd: calls $6
Gokho: folds
jesussaveu: calls $3
pavelzzz: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 9d Ks]
jesussaveu: checks
pavelzzz: bets $18
tcorlando: folds
vandyke67: folds
bryanboyd: calls $18
jesussaveu: calls $18
*** TURN *** [8h 9d Ks] [6h]
jesussaveu: checks
pavelzzz: bets $30
bryanboyd: raises $42 to $72
jesussaveu: folds
pavelzzz: calls $42
*** RIVER *** [8h 9d Ks 6h] [Kd]
pavelzzz: bets $102
bryanboyd: raises $458.40 to $560.40 and is all-in
pavelzzz: ????
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:24 PM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

ez fold, ez turn fold as well. turn bet isn't all that great either.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:19 AM
lesismore lesismore is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

Gross, flop bet is fine, c/f turn, Bryanboyd is a nit and you are beat, another player called flop too, why you betting again?
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

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Gross, flop bet is fine, c/f turn, Bryanboyd is a nit and you are beat, another player called flop too, why you betting again?

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This is total spew. Unless he has drastically opened up his game, Bryanboyd is really nitty. Once he calls the flop bet you're way behind his range with no chance of catching up. The best line to take with your hand on this board is check turn with intention of folding and check river with the intention of folding.

You're losing value on the turn vs him so rarely because unless he's picked up a flush draw or pair outs he's prob folding most draws to any reasonable turn bet anyway. If he has a draw (J10, Q10, 67) he's checking behind the turn most time except if he picked up a heart draw as well. On the river he's checking down missed hands and any weak hands w/ showdown value.
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Old 11-30-2006, 11:26 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

I would consider checking the flop, and I would definately check the turn. Your hand isn't very strong, you're OOP, and there are very few hands that can call you that you're ahead of. The pots already getting kind of bloated, and if money goes into this pot on 3 streets you're almost certainly behind.

As played I would fold to the turn raise. On the river I would check/call.
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Old 12-01-2006, 12:38 AM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

Yo Pavel,

Check fold the turn. Def fold river...
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:07 AM
jlocdog jlocdog is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

I puked for you Pavelzzz. Your hand didn't improve with that K on the river. Is betting 1/3rd pot a standard turn bet at this table? Seems weak.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:11 AM
mikeJ mikeJ is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

Check river. Now, fold.
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

Are you pavel55 on PartyPoker?
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Old 12-01-2006, 02:32 AM
captainwacky captainwacky is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl Bleeding river?

I think both flop bet and (maybe?) turn bet are ok, except for maybe the size of the turn bet, but once you are raised on the turn, I see no reason to continue... The only thing that legitimately lets you be confident in your hand is a 7, and it's not likely you'll get paid on it anyway.
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