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Old 11-23-2006, 08:03 PM
ThePortuguee ThePortuguee is offline
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Default Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I'm a laggy player. That's my image. this guy just sat down. I've since seen him do some fishy crap that makes me think twice about my decision, but at the time I didnt have any real reads.

It's 1/2 NL, Full Tilt Six max. The villain has 200 I cover.

So anyway, I get A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I raise to 7.

SB calls, villain from BB calls.

Flop ($21) is A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Check, check to me. I pot for 21, SB folds, villain makes it 65. I fold.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:05 PM
gol4pro gol4pro is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I'm folding here exactly never against an unknown in a 200nl 6-max game.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:09 PM
ThePortuguee ThePortuguee is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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I'm folding here exactly never against an unknown in a 200nl 6-max game.

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On this board, you're NEVER folding? Seems like it might be a leak, no?
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:14 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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I'm folding here exactly never against an unknown in a 200nl 6-max game.

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On this board, you're NEVER folding? Seems like it might be a leak, no?

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If youre folding AK here, do you realize how exploitable it is?

Basically your calling range is AA, 66, 33, A6, A3. This is a small fraction of the hands you would cbet on this flop.

If I was this guy and I knew you fold Ak to a CR here I'd CR you with air every time.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:18 PM
Sponger. Sponger. is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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If I was this guy and I knew you fold Ak to a CR here I'd CR you with air every time.

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and a lot of the times I defend I c/r a flop just cause I'm crazy like that or something.

Seriously though, the guy called a raise from the BB, if he limped-called preflop or cold called I'd be much more interested in folding.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:19 PM
Yoj1mbo Yoj1mbo is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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I'm folding here exactly never against an unknown in a 200nl 6-max game.

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On this board, you're NEVER folding? Seems like it might be a leak, no?

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If youre folding AK here, do you realize how exploitable it is?

Basically your calling range is AA, 66, 33, A6, A3. This is a small fraction of the hands you would cbet on this flop.

If I was this guy and I knew you fold Ak to a CR here I'd CR you with air every time.

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It's not a problem unless somebody clearly starts exploiting you though, and then you adjust. Your reasoning also justifies stacking off with TPTK nearly always, which can't be good.
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:05 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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Your reasoning also justifies stacking off with TPTK nearly always, which can't be good.

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Why do i keep hearing ppl say this??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Stacking off with TPTK in a HU pot is so very standard
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

Push.

Or call and check-raise all-in on the turn.

I kinda like the second optiom.


Edit: Well you wouldn't be check-raising all-in on the turn. But I like calling and then raising all-in when he bets the turn.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

This is awful. Call, mostly push the turn if he bets.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

There is something odd going on at SSNL at the moment: suddenly, TPTK is KING!

Is it just me who has noticed this?

On this hand, to those advocating pushing (or felting somewhere) is that a 100%, no doubts, total certainty decision?

And presumably the basis for this belief is that the flop raise is AT-AQ often enough for the push to be +EV
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