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Full text here. Money graphs:
It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads. These officers have been loyal public promoters of a war policy many privately feared would fail. They have kept their counsel private, adhering to more than two centuries of American tradition of subordination of the military to civilian authority. And although that tradition, and the officers' deep sense of honor, prevent them from saying this publicly, more and more of them believe it. Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt. This is not about the midterm elections. Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth: Donald Rumsfeld must go. |
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Sure, sure. With success right around the corner, with the huge almost 100% turn out at the elections, with the terrorists in their last gasp, you want to get rid of the guy responsible. Typical liberal.
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And replace him with...?
You can't object to the status quo without providing an alternative that will provably work better. Right? |
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And replace him with...? You can't object to the status quo without providing an alternative that will provably work better. Right? [/ QUOTE ] Democrats (not the party members, but supporters of our democratic system) can't understand this. When you don't like something you do whatever it takes to get him out with no consideration of the alternatives. |
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[ QUOTE ] And replace him with...? You can't object to the status quo without providing an alternative that will provably work better. Right? [/ QUOTE ] Democrats (not the party members, but supporters of our democratic system) can't understand this. When you don't like something you do whatever it takes to get him out with no consideration of the alternatives. [/ QUOTE ] Well, actually, I was angling towards the common statist objection to AC (ZOMG AC TROLL MAFIA HIJACK ALERT), that AC doesn't provide a roadmap with exact, centrally-planned replacements for the status quo. But since the large majority of people who are calling for Rumsfeld to step down presumably do want *someone* to replace him, it seem reasonable to ask who they think would be better. |
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Politics is usually politics of an organised society.
So, it would be fair to say that injecting AC can effectively short-circuit almost each and every discussion involving politics. If that's the message, I think it's already across. Mickey Brausch |
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But since the large majority of people who are calling for Rumsfeld to step down presumably do want *someone* to replace him, it seem reasonable to ask who they think would be better. [/ QUOTE ] Reason has no place with the majority. Remember the battle cry of all politicians: "ANYONE BUT [other guy]!" |
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Democrats (not the party members, but supporters of our democratic system) can't understand this. When you don't like something you do whatever it takes to get him out with no consideration of the alternatives. [/ QUOTE ] I would think this wouldn't need to be pointed out to anyone who can add 2+2 together, but you don't really think it's always necessary to debate who specifically should replace someone, to know that they should be replaced, do you? |
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And replace him with...? You can't object to the status quo without providing an alternative that will provably work better. Right? [/ QUOTE ] Tell that to the AC crowd. Oooops, you are one of them!! |
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[ QUOTE ] And replace him with...? You can't object to the status quo without providing an alternative that will provably work better. Right? [/ QUOTE ] Tell that to the AC crowd. Oooops, you are one of them!! [/ QUOTE ] Keep reading. So do you think this is a valid argument or not? |
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