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Old 11-04-2006, 06:18 AM
PHiLLeDINGUE PHiLLeDINGUE is offline
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Default How do you play it ???

Ok, here's a hand that I think could give a nice discussion so there it is ... I can't make up my mind on wich line is better, AND specialy WHY in that spot !!??
Also, because it's a 4 way pot and I'm first to act, it makes it a little more tricky !! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

can't find the converter for fulltilt ... so there it is

FullTiltPoker Game #1190811125: Table Coral Isle (6 max) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:10:33 ET - 2006/11/03
Seat 1: krisqueen ($5,000)
Seat 2: Munchi ($8,751)
Seat 3: Ph1LLeD1NGUE ($10,769)
Seat 4: Buy in Viv ($5,869)
Seat 5: Snake8484 ($6,155)
Seat 6: MUCKEMSAYUHH ($10,882)
Ph1LLeD1NGUE posts the small blind of $25
Buy in Viv posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ph1LLeD1NGUE [Ac 9c]
Snake8484 folds
MUCKEMSAYUHH raises to $175
krisqueen calls $175
Munchi calls $175
Ph1LLeD1NGUE calls $150
Buy in Viv folds

*** FLOP *** [4c Tc Ad]

SO if we stop here agst 3 opponnents...
lead here ?? check raise ?? check call ?? lead-push ?? what's the plan for the turn if we are called by 1 or many players ?? what if it's checked around ??

Ph1LLeD1NGUE checks
MUCKEMSAYUHH checks
krisqueen checks
Munchi checks

*** TURN *** [4c Tc Ad] [5h]

here ??
Lead ?? check call ?? check raise ??

Ph1LLeD1NGUE checks
MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $600
krisqueen folds
Munchi folds
Ph1LLeD1NGUE calls $600

*** RIVER *** [4c Tc Ad 5h] [Ts]

Ph1LLeD1NGUE checks
MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $1,750 --> here I think it's a fold, but I'm not sure because of the way I played it ... I kind of feel that with the check around on the flop I had no plan for the rest of the hand and got lost ... but I only beat a bluff in the end so...

any comments ?? thanks
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

ure really hoping for A2, A3, A6-8 here or a complete bluff. i think leading the turn and blocking the river is better, or cc the river depending on how he plays. if u check the turn, ure prb going to be faced w/ calling two shells w/ little info, never fun. i do like the flop check fwiw
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

I was your opponent btw, maybe will respond after some discussion.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

Im also confused on what to do on the flop here.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

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I was your opponent btw, maybe will respond after some discussion.

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you already did respond! LOLLOtricked

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its late, this was really funny to me
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:57 AM
luegofuego luegofuego is offline
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

for some perverse reason, i agree w bobbo. it scares me!

i don't get how this hand is all that tricky. if u like to c/r flop, c/r. if u like to lead flop, lead. i would lead. turn plan depends on who called it etc but i would probably just fire again most of the time. i do not see how this hand is very difficult.
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:10 AM
Kirkrrr Kirkrrr is offline
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

This hand is actually kinda difficult. There's a very good chance that vs some one like cts your hand is good, but it's gonna cost you a [censored] to find out, and since he's more than capable of switching into "well, since I can't play my hand, I'll play yours" mode, any single given line can backfire.

As played, I'd usually lead turn and check-call any river vs the PFR, fwiw. If it was someone other than PFR that decided to get interested, it becomes a whole different topic of discussion.

Kirk
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Old 11-05-2006, 06:33 PM
PHiLLeDINGUE PHiLLeDINGUE is offline
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

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I was your opponent btw, maybe will respond after some discussion.

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Could you tell us what was your thinking now ??
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Old 11-04-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

How you, of all people, don't lead out here, I have no idea. Not saying it's the best play, but this is pretty standard for you, no?

Lead and Flop CR are both good, but I prefer flop CR multi-way, infers far more strength IMHO. Beyond that depends too much on who's still around.
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Old 11-04-2006, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: How do you play it ???

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but I only beat a bluff in the end so...

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isn't this true on every street?
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