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11-03-2006, 05:43 PM
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maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
read on opponent is he's not super tricky.
stack sizes make flop and turn decision tricky. i have about 2200 he has about 4200. bb is at 8k or so. optimal play? Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $30/$60 8 players Converter Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, hero calls, SB folds, BB checks. Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($210, 3 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $180 hero calls, BB folds. Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($570, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $480</font>, hero????? 
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#3
11-03-2006, 05:51 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
I'd still raise the flop and hope I get 3 baned
As played I'd either call or jam turn, if he doesn't have king he may fold to the jam Still though, I much prefer cramming flop
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#4
11-03-2006, 06:17 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
I raise PF on the button if its only limps in front.
Raise the flop, smile if 3 bet. You're right stack sizes kinda blow on turn, but I jam expecting a lot of folds. Regards, Woodguy
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#5
11-03-2006, 06:27 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
I would love to see some discussion of what we think villain has after his turn bet, and what portion of that we think we're folding out with a shove.
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#6
11-03-2006, 07:02 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
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I would love to see some discussion of what we think villain has after his turn bet, and what portion of that we think we're folding out with a shove. [/ QUOTE ] He can have a ton of different hands here. Overpair (99ish), two pair, flush draw, straight, straight draw with a pair, etc. The crux of his range though is that when we push we usually fold out the one hand we don't want to call, and that's a better flush draw. Against all other hands we have a nice amount of outs and our pot equity combined with fold equity make it a +EV play (air math) Since we really want the better flush draw to fold and don't mind all other hands coming along on the flop, its best to raise the flop and take control of the hand. Raising the flop and jamming the turn is the best line here against his range. We usually fold the one hand we want to fold and have excellent equity vs the rest. Regards, Woodguy
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#7
11-03-2006, 07:06 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
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The crux of his range though is that when we push we usually fold out the one hand we don't want to call, and that's a better flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] I'm pushing anyway but I feel happier about it now. Cheers.
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#8
11-03-2006, 06:27 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
I wouldn't raise pre-flop but I raise the flop unless I have some very strong reason for believing that BB is coming over the top and even then I still probably raise.
Why not?
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#9
11-03-2006, 06:28 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
By the way, I definitely raise preflop and definitely raise the flop as played.
It's the turn I'm not sure about.
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#10
11-03-2006, 06:38 PM
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Re: maybe interesting 10-9s hand?
Villain has a strong hand and I suspect that jamming is not such a good idea now but, personally, I'm not so sure of my hand reading that that I'm not going to jam. I don't think we've got room for anything else and he's not obliged to put the rest in on the river when/if we hit fairly obviously.
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