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Old 11-02-2006, 01:05 AM
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Default JJ overpair, turn raise

villain here is passive, 65/2/.5. The one read I have is "c/r turn floppd trips rags" Is this a standard fold?

Just a little background: I have been calling down a lot in my play & have spent the last 7 months sucking. Every calldown seems expensive. I have really lost all judgement post-flop, as every raise, checkraise, donk, etc has got me so f*cking weak it's absurd. I don't mean to digress on the post but my play has been suffering bad.

OK I have no idea why the converter is suddenly using $ figures instead of bets...


Full Tilt Poker
LHE 2/4
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) Buzz is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Buzz raises to $4</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: ($10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Buzz bets $2</font>, MP2 calls.

Turn: ($14) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Buzz bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $8</font>, Buzz ?
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

I think you can fold here, although I probably call down in the heat of the action. Calling down is 8$ for a chance to win 30, and I would say at least 3/4 times here he has trips or boat. Good fold.
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Old 11-02-2006, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

If you can trust your read than fold, if you think there's a chance he's trying to mess with u (unlikely!), then maybe a call, but if you haven't been showing any weakness then it wouldn't be worth it.

Although you could have a couple more outs than you think (he could have 54), but I don't think those odds are in your favour either.

Oh well next time flop quad Jacks!
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Old 11-02-2006, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

I think you can let this go on the turn. The pot is small and it looks a lot like trips. I like the b/f turn.
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Old 11-02-2006, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

I could hardly let this one go, but trips or a set is very likely here. But this is just a standard reply, the interesting thing is how passive is he actually? If he see two thirds of the flops I guess he will miss or have the a weak hand a very large poortion of the time, which then results in a timid AF. This doesn't mean that he plays hands like top pair and better more passive that our standard TAG.
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

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villain here is passive, 65/2/.5. The one read I have is "c/r turn floppd trips rags"

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over how many hands?

sure looks like a fold here. when I'm sitting at the table looking at it, it looks like a call down. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2006, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

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sure looks like a fold here. when I'm sitting at the table looking at it, it looks like a call down. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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That's exactly the best way to describe these kind of hands [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

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villain here is passive, 65/2/.5. The one read I have is "c/r turn floppd trips rags"

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over how many hands?

sure looks like a fold here. when I'm sitting at the table looking at it, it looks like a call down. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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train,

like 150-200

Buzz
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

Fold.
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Old 11-02-2006, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: JJ overpair, turn raise

"c/r turn floppd trips rags"

fold
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