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5/10 Blind steal situation
$5/$10 NL 6-max Full Tilt.
Reads: new to table, but neither player has done anything retarded yet. Button ($1000) open for $25. SB ($580) raises to $54. You ($1000) are in the BB holding XX, and raise it to $160 total. Button pushes all-in, SB calls! Pot is roughly $1740, and it's $840 to call, getting roughly 2:1. What hands are you calling with here and why? |
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
kk ak
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kk ak [/ QUOTE ] wow, folding queens there, I would call with QQ. Too loose? |
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
depends on your opponents of course but usually fold queens
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
i really dont like calling AK.
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
Would say you need KK, AA to make it a profitable call. AK, and QQ in this range makes it -EV.
If you look at this logically in steps you can say what range would button push all-in with given re-raise, and re-re-raise ahead. Also, must consider that he was initial one who lead out from UTG... I would say a loose range for Button would be AQ+, JJ+....more realistic range would be AK, QQ+. Now considering this...according to gap-theory if the SB puts button on above range than he should only make this call with hand in higher range...which is minimum of AK, QQ+. Now onto you...considering all action above you would require only two hands to make call..KK and AA...anything less should be out of the question unless you have good reads that both villians are complete nut cases |
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
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kk ak [/ QUOTE ] off the top of my head, i agree with this. i'd also make it about $200 straight with my re-reraise...maybe more. |
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
KK is definitely a fold.
If you have KK then there are only 2 kings left, So that leaves 6 combos of AA, 8 combos of AK, 6 combos of QQ, 6 combos of JJ etc SB's calling range here has to be at least QQ+, surely nobody here calls with AK. So at absolute best that makes him 50% QQ, 50% AA. But Button pushed, over two blind raises without history so his range is probably at least QQ+, AK. If SB has QQ then button's range is basically 50% AA, 50% AK, if SB has AA then button's range is like 60% QQ, 40% AK. In the SB = QQ range you have c35% equity, in the SB = AA range you have 14% equity. Getting 2:1 you'd need to have 33% EV, so its a clear fold with KK. |
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
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KK is definitely a fold. If you have KK then there are only 2 kings left, So that leaves 6 combos of AA, 8 combos of AK, 6 combos of QQ, 6 combos of JJ etc SB's calling range here has to be at least QQ+, surely nobody here calls with AK. So at absolute best that makes him 50% QQ, 50% AA. But Button pushed, over two blind raises without history so his range is probably at least QQ+, AK. If SB has QQ then button's range is basically 50% AA, 50% AK, if SB has AA then button's range is like 60% QQ, 40% AK. In the SB = QQ range you have c35% equity, in the SB = AA range you have 14% equity. Getting 2:1 you'd need to have 33% EV, so its a clear fold with KK. [/ QUOTE ] So you'd only call with AA here? I looked at your numbers, and I think you may be giving the SB too tight a calling range. Remember the SB only started the hand w/ ~$580, so I'm thinking he may just get it all in with something like AK or maybe even pair like JJ/TT. |
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Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation
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[ QUOTE ] KK is definitely a fold. If you have KK then there are only 2 kings left, So that leaves 6 combos of AA, 8 combos of AK, 6 combos of QQ, 6 combos of JJ etc SB's calling range here has to be at least QQ+, surely nobody here calls with AK. So at absolute best that makes him 50% QQ, 50% AA. But Button pushed, over two blind raises without history so his range is probably at least QQ+, AK. If SB has QQ then button's range is basically 50% AA, 50% AK, if SB has AA then button's range is like 60% QQ, 40% AK. In the SB = QQ range you have c35% equity, in the SB = AA range you have 14% equity. Getting 2:1 you'd need to have 33% EV, so its a clear fold with KK. [/ QUOTE ] So you'd only call with AA here? I looked at your numbers, and I think you may be giving the SB too tight a calling range. Remember the SB only started the hand w/ ~$580, so I'm thinking he may just get it all in with something like AK or maybe even pair like JJ/TT. [/ QUOTE ] ah, my bad. Didnt see the sb was short. KK+ looks safe now then. |
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