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#1
10-30-2006, 09:59 AM
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Dispute
We are playing 2/4 nl and are generally having a good time. None of us are regular live players, I think.
A guy makes it 16 on the button. I call with 88 in the sb. bb reraises to 75. Button has only 105 left and pushes allin. I object and say its not a legal reraise and he has to call or fold. He goes ballistic. The others rule in his favor. I fold. Thoughts? 
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#3
10-30-2006, 10:30 AM
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Re: Dispute
You may be mistaking this with another scenario, which is:
If that guy goes all in for the 75 plus his remaining chips, you and the guy after you can not reraise this pot again because the rest of his chips being pushed in did not equal a minimum raise. Either way, he can shove any time.
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#4
10-30-2006, 10:55 AM
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Re: Dispute
Depending on the house rule, the SB might not be able to reraise after the Button pushed his 105 (if you called the 105, otherwise it wouldn't matter). But the Button can certainly push after the SB reopened the action with his raise to 75.
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#5
10-30-2006, 01:19 PM
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Re: Dispute
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Depending on the house rule, the SB might not be able to reraise after the Button pushed his 105 (if you called the 105, otherwise it wouldn't matter). [/ QUOTE ] "A guy makes it 16 on the button. I call with 88 in the sb. bb reraises to 75. Button has only 105 left and pushes allin." Smack yourself 5 times for your statement, Nick. Or, give me details on the crazy home game rules that say that you can't call $16 and then reraise the $75 raise or $105 reraise (unless they have a 2 raise limit, rather than the 3 raise limit some home games have). I think you meant someone other than the SB? Because he couldn't call and then raise. ??
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#6
10-30-2006, 04:50 PM
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Re: Dispute
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[ QUOTE ] Depending on the house rule, the SB might not be able to reraise after the Button pushed his 105 (if you called the 105, otherwise it wouldn't matter). [/ QUOTE ] "A guy makes it 16 on the button. I call with 88 in the sb. bb reraises to 75. Button has only 105 left and pushes allin." Smack yourself 5 times for your statement, Nick. Or, give me details on the crazy home game rules that say that you can't call $16 and then reraise the $75 raise or $105 reraise... [/ QUOTE ] LOL
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#7
10-30-2006, 05:06 PM
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Re: Dispute
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Smack yourself 5 times for your statement, Nick. Or, give me details on the crazy home game rules that say that you can't call $16 and then reraise the $75 raise or $105 reraise... [/ QUOTE ] LOL [/ QUOTE ] :P
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#8
10-30-2006, 05:07 PM
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Re: Dispute
Is this a joke?
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#9
10-30-2006, 05:26 PM
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Re: Dispute
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[ QUOTE ] Depending on the house rule, the SB might not be able to reraise after the Button pushed his 105 (if you called the 105, otherwise it wouldn't matter). [/ QUOTE ] "A guy makes it 16 on the button. I call with 88 in the sb. bb reraises to 75. Button has only 105 left and pushes allin." Smack yourself 5 times for your statement, Nick. Or, give me details on the crazy home game rules that say that you can't call $16 and then reraise the $75 raise or $105 reraise (unless they have a 2 raise limit, rather than the 3 raise limit some home games have). I think you meant someone other than the SB? Because he couldn't call and then raise. ?? [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, I meant the BB can't reraise. In a case like this: Button: Raise to $16 SB: Call $16 BB: Raise to $75 Button: Raise all-in for $105 SB: Call $105 BB: ???? In this case, the BB might only be able to call, not raise, because the Button's raise was not large enough to re-open the action.
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#10
10-30-2006, 07:51 PM
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Re: Dispute
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Sorry, I meant the BB can't reraise. In a case like this: Button: Raise to $16 SB: Call $16 BB: Raise to $75 Button: Raise all-in for $105 SB: Call $105 BB: ???? In this case, the BB might only be able to call, not raise, because the Button's raise was not large enough to re-open the action. [/ QUOTE ] Actually, most B&M cardrooms don't allow BB to reraise, as the less-than-full-raise-all-in doesn't reopen the betting. In place that have the half-bet-raise reopen rule, the $30 reraise barely reopens it. I KNEW that you knew better.... glad I don't have to give you a time-out penalty :P
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