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JJ, my image makes this difficult.
Villain is dsindy, in my opinion Top 3 10/20nl players on FTP. I'm playing him on several tables that are playing 3 to 4-handed, getting cards, and he probably thinks I'm semi-maniacal. So while normally I think I may be beat here, given our history this session folding doesn't seem right either. Wasn't sure about this one.
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $10/$20 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $1614 Hero: $3577.25 SB: $2000 BB: $3054 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $220</font>, Hero calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($450, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $360</font>, Hero calls. Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1170, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $860</font>, Hero calls. River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($2890, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $1614</font>, Hero calls. Anyone play this different? Kirk |
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
Your hand is face up. He's not trying to get you to fold if he thinks you're a maniac I don't think. I fold it.
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
Raise flop fold to push or big turn bet
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
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Raise flop fold to push or big turn bet [/ QUOTE ] You're seriously underestimaing the range of hands he'll re-raise all-in with here, especially with 150bb. Kirk |
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
Then if that's the case, raise the flop and if he pushes just call knowing your are ahead most of the time.
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
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Then if that's the case, raise the flop and if he pushes just call knowing your are ahead most of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Wow... I never realized poker was this incredibly simple. Your stellar analysis in this thread is making me quickly realize how much more I have yet to learn. Kirk |
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
only 150bb in a shorthanded agro game this seems pretty standard.
playing 'maniacal' definately makes playing medium strength hands more difficult as can now eek more value than if you had an nitty image but you have to be careful esp w. big riv decisions like this. how often does he v. bet 9x or TT here? vs a "maniac" who is capable of making "thin calls" I can see him playing those hands like this. but you're getting great odds on riv and I think we see worse made hands and the occasional bluff here now and then to make this call ok. |
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
2/3rd pot riv bluff? I highly doubt it... You beat Ah Kh /Qh combo.....not much else, except the obv air... No way he has A9/TT here.... I'm guessing KK.
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
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Your hand is face up. He's not trying to get you to fold if he thinks you're a maniac I don't think. I fold it. [/ QUOTE ] I seem to notice a fair amount of people saying hands are "face up" when they are nowhere NEAR face up. Fold may still be the play, but there are about 20 different hands I can think of that can play the hand like kirkrr did, ( not all of them played well, but I've seen a hand or 2 he has played pretty oddly.) |
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Re: JJ, my image makes this difficult.
i think river is fold, dsindy is solid. everything up to the turn makes perfect sense. dsindy either has ace king or a similar form of air. or your dominated. i think chances are better hes got AA-QQ, rather than bluffing here most times. can we see results?
how wide is his 3bet range? is it possible he repopped with 7-8s or something? then on turn just got minted with that draw. i still think hes got a big pair though. and JJ is just in a tough spot on this rags board. |
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