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#1
10-26-2006, 05:50 PM
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4/8 live on the button
I just changed tables so no real reads. Guy who raised on the turn looks like a typical Commerce Casino 'Gambler'.
I have 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] otb. 3 players limp in front of me, I limp, SB calls, BB checks. - 6 players to the flop. Flop is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. It gets checked to me and I bet. I get 3 callers. Turn is an A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] . Early position player bets, MP player raises, player 3 folds, I ....? 
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#2
10-26-2006, 06:20 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
Don't know if I would've limped in with 67s in that position, especially just getting to the table...
I don't feel like doing the math, but you've got 10 outs so I'm pretty sure you've gotta call. I'd imagine you're behind at this point (1 or even both of the other players has an A probably) so I wouldn't raise...
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#3
10-26-2006, 06:27 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
Preflop seems standard to me.
I call the flop and re-evaluate on the turn.
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#5
10-26-2006, 07:27 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
re-evaluate on the turn? Re-read the orginal post and you'll see that the question is about the turn play.
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#6
10-26-2006, 07:56 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
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re-evaluate on the turn? Re-read the orginal post and you'll see that the question is about the turn play. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry... Yuck, tough spot. Getting like 4-1 with the possibilty of a raise behind us and maybe having to dodge a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and our 7 putting 4 straight on board...I probably fold, but I fold too much. It would be nice to have a read on the players.
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#8
10-26-2006, 06:59 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
I'm looking at an 8bb pot with 2 bets to me so 1:4 pot odds. 8 cards make me a straight, although 2 of those may make someone a flush. I'm pretty sure that pairing my 7 is not going to win me the hand, however pairing the 6 may. With the donk bet and raise on the turn I also had the feeling that someone may already have a made straight with 78, so the 3 may not be good and an 8 could be buying me a split. I figured I had at most 8 outs but as some of these were to a split, I had only 6 'real' outs. Is my thinking off here?
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#9
10-26-2006, 07:18 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
Preflop is standard, although just sitting down it might be worth it for your image to raise. Flop is fine. As for the turn, I'm not really sure you have outs to continue. If you were closing the action, it might be worth a call. However, you've got both the EP and MP betting into you after you showed aggression on the flop, and the initial bettor is still yet to act. You're almost certainly behind, many of your outs are dirty or splits at best, and someone may already have the nuts. I curse and fold.
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#10
10-26-2006, 07:34 PM
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Re: 4/8 live on the button
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Preflop is standard, although just sitting down it might be worth it for your image to raise. Flop is fine. As for the turn, I'm not really sure you have outs to continue. If you were closing the action, it might be worth a call. However, you've got both the EP and MP betting into you after you showed aggression on the flop, and the initial bettor is still yet to act. You're almost certainly behind, many of your outs are dirty or splits at best, and someone may already have the nuts. I curse and fold. [/ QUOTE ] The problem is that you don't have any reads on the players. b
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