River value bet with top pair?

kiemo · #1 10-19-2006, 08:15 PM

IGNORE THE NO RAISE PREFLOP

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

Is a river value bet??

Sean Fraley · #2 10-19-2006, 08:26 PM

yep.

tehox · #3 10-19-2006, 08:27 PM

Probably. I don't think not raising preflop is really a mistake.

kiemo · #4 10-19-2006, 08:38 PM

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Probably. I don't think not raising preflop is really a mistake.

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me either, but the motto of this forum is 'RAISE PREFLOP'.

knockonwood · #5 10-19-2006, 08:45 PM

Raise PF, bet all streets.

knockonwood · #6 10-19-2006, 08:47 PM

eh, second thoughts, check the river with four others showing down.

Xhad · #7 10-19-2006, 10:56 PM

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Probably. I don't think not raising preflop is really a mistake.

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me either, but the motto of this forum is 'RAISE PREFLOP'.

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I would like it if you were the button but here I'd like to buy the button or at least get closer to it.

I can't see a river bet; it's not just the straight/flush, it's the 2pair hands that'll be scared into c/c'ing because of the straight and flush.

drzen · #8 10-19-2006, 09:30 PM

I don't think checking behind is terrible because this is an obvious spot for a checkraise even for a fairly passive player.

CrMenace · #9 10-19-2006, 09:47 PM

*grunch*

I'm thinking you're still good here. The backdoor flush was a longshot, and I believe we would have heard more from a Q9 or two pair by now. b/f seems like a reasonable line.

Shillx · #10 10-19-2006, 10:06 PM

I'm not good enough to bet it but I play bad