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Old 10-16-2006, 12:00 PM
KingOtter KingOtter is offline
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Default 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

Hand-converted, sorry if there are errors.

Villain is 40/8. Earlier hand he had A7s, made bottom pair on flop, called pot size bets flop and turn and called off his stack on river w/bottom pair missed flush. His stack was $60 at that point, he rebought.

FullTiltPoker (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em

Seat 1: BB ($50)
Seat 2: UTG ($50)
Seat 3: Hero ($43.40)
Seat 4: CO ($36.15)
Seat 5: Button ($131.95)
Seat 6: SB ($6.65)
SB posts the small blind of $0.25
BB posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #5

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

UTG calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.25

*** FLOP *** [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($6.75)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.75</font>, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.75

*** TURN *** [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
UTG bets $10.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25</font>, UTG raises to $39.50, Hero calls $12.90, and is all in
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:13 PM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

Okay so thats a pretty strong read - this guy is a total moron. Still I'd like to see you raise more preflop, raise it up to 4bb + 1 per limper, so $2.25 in this case. On the flop, bet more. That little bet is offering some attractive immediate and implied odds to all type of hands. Make it $6 to go, show em where its at!

This turn is no fun. Our villain could have anything...56, K6, 66, blarg. Its a tough spot. I think you can justify stacking off liberally against an opponent this bad, but given that he has suddenly woken up, I'm not feeling too good about doing it here. I think your raise is great, but im just not sure about your situation to commit here.

I think this is justifiable given your read, but he has two pair or a set too often here to make this a good play. Unfortunately I find a fold on this turn.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:18 PM
bgoalie35 bgoalie35 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

Agree with ama. I just don't like the way he suddenly wakes up and attacks on the turn. Remember, you've seen him call off his stack with crap, but he's actually betting into you this time. Even idiots hit sets or 2 pair sometimes.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

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Remember, you've seen him call off his stack with crap, but he's actually betting into you this time.

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Bingo.
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Old 10-16-2006, 12:21 PM
Splossy Splossy is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

I'd be worried. Sure he called badly before with bottom pair hunting for a flush but that is different to leading out on the turn after being bet into for the last two rounds.
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

No way I'm raising here. Just because he called of with a bad hand doesn't mean he will bet a bad hand.
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Old 10-16-2006, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

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No way I'm raising here. Just because he called of with a bad hand doesn't mean he will bet a bad hand.

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If you just call this turn, what are you doing on the river if he bets something like 15-20 into the pot of 26, just curious, because I would likely take that same line and wanting to shoot someone on the river.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

OP: Explain your preflop raise amount.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

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OP: Explain your preflop raise amount.

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pot?

edit: btw, for those who do not play at ftp, pot button for pfrs are very very common.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6-max - KQ makes TP, heavy turn betting

I would not raise the turn. Not much value there.
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