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Old 10-14-2006, 07:55 PM
Absolution Absolution is offline
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Default Fold this river, largish pot

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Should have raised here, but I'm playing weak due to the massive downswing.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero...

A lot of draws came in there and the pot isn't huge yet. I have only been at the table for just over an orbit, but this guy has been loose and passive.
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

Meh, really not enough information to know what to do. Protected pot, passive opponent, prolly a fold, but the only way you get really effed calling is if Button 3-jacks it. So, unless the Button smells tricky to you, whatever.
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:15 PM
VickreyAuction VickreyAuction is offline
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

It's a protected pot checkraise from a LPP, so I'd fold.
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Old 10-14-2006, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

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Old 10-15-2006, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

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fold

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Old 10-16-2006, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

i often pay them off on the river, but the correct move here is clearly:

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fold

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Old 10-15-2006, 02:24 AM
Big Poppa Smurf Big Poppa Smurf is offline
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

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It's a protected pot checkraise from a LPP, so I'd fold.

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i don't know if most 0.5-1 players know what a protected pot is so i wouldn't even worry about that, if he is loose and passive you're beat here. the other dooder will still call so you can see his hand anyway.
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:50 PM
WHITEBOYAEHS WHITEBOYAEHS is offline
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

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It's a protected pot checkraise from a LPP, so I'd fold.

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i don't know if most 0.5-1 players know what a protected pot is so i wouldn't even worry about that, if he is loose and passive you're beat here. the other dooder will still call so you can see his hand anyway.

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yeah this is true...what is a protected pot?
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Old 10-16-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

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yeah this is true...what is a protected pot?

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A pot that it would be very foolish to bluff at. Examples:

-There are a lot of players and the chances of someone having a made hand is too high
-Someone is all-in and the side-pot is small
-Someone has shown a lot of strength and is very likely to want to show his hand down
-Some players in the hand are very loose and will call down with almost anything
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Old 10-14-2006, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: Fold this river, largish pot

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I have only been at the table for just over an orbit, but this guy has been loose and passive.

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Based on your limited read and the size of the pot a fold is in order.
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