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Am I being too aggressive here with only 2nd pair and an overcard on the flop?
Poker Stars Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.05/$0.1 10 players Converter Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero (poster) checks, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB (poster) checks. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.4SB, 5 players) BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.7BB, 4 players) UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 calls all-in $0.1</font>. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.7BB, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 12.7BB) UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, 2 folds. Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero. Results: Final pot: 12.7BB |
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I don't really like the turn raise. I just call dwon.
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I think i bet this flop. If i have the best hand now i surely donīt wanna give any free cards to anyone with a draw. But i might be already behind. Still betting the flop.
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ok I may be pissed right now but doesn't this turn raise suck?
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Flop bet is close, but it's actually an easy check/fold. Turn raise and river bet are spew. Now who is going to call on the river with a worse hand? This is more a less a bluff against 5 opponents.
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Flop bet is close, but it's actually an easy check/fold. [/ QUOTE ] This is contradictory. If it's close, it's not easy. I don't mind the flop bet, but fold to the turn bet. It's an interesting question whether you can value bet the turn if it's checked to you. |
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Yeah, I think it may well suck. I probably do that too often, mistakenly trying to 'protect my hand'.
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Consider the number of players and the coordination of the board. These variables determine your hand just as much as your holecards.
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I see what you mean, thanks for the advice, its pretty obvious now I think about it...d'oh
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Ok, this hand comes from our session review (we're not on Aussies list 'cause we were too late). My reaction to his hand was that betting the flop wasn't going to protect his hand since he was giving 5 to 1 odds which are enough for a good draw (OESD / FD) to call anyways.
Now it's true that merely checking might be weak (I know I'm too weak postflop) and giving a free card to the OESD is indeed a bigger mistake then just betting out. My primary concern would then be if this hand has enough value to bet? The turn raise got me puzzled when reviewing this hand for the first time. Especially because there was already an overcard to his jack on the flop and the 9 on the turn could have filled someones draw. In my humble opinion this turn raise was chip spew. On a side-note: As well as for Joujou, this was my first attempt at session review, and I think Joujou agrees when I say session reviews are a great way to learn more. |
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