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5/10 QJ hand
Im rather new to limit, Villain was 31\22\2 over 70 hands. How did i play this hand?
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (7.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (7.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (11.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls. Final Pot: 15.70 BB |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
I would C/R the flop and calldown a 3 bet. Your turn lead is bad.
On the river he can hold AQ/AJ equally combo wise. He would have to be a tard to play AK like this and there are AA/QQ/JJ to worry about so I'd check/call the river. |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
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I would C/R the flop and calldown a 3 bet. Your turn lead is bad. On the river he can hold AQ/AJ equally combo wise. He would have to be a tard to play AK like this and there are AA/QQ/JJ to worry about so I'd check/call the river. [/ QUOTE ] I like the flop but agree with you on the turn and river. I think you made a mistake on the combos though. AJ 3 AQ 6 AA 3 QQ 1 JJ 0 I also agree that AK would be overplayed but I also think that there is some possibility that villain could have 3bet pf with KTs |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
Oops Ricks, thanks for clearing that up. I agree KTs needs to be considered but very discounted IMO.
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
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I would C/R the flop and calldown a 3 bet. Your turn lead is bad. [/ QUOTE ] I want to get 4 flop bets into this pot whenever possible. You are being 3bet by top pair, especially + a gutshot and/or FD, nearly every time. I could see going either way (bet/call, check/call) on the turn. 6-handed, a lot of people are going to play AK this way, especially if he thinks the OP is LAG. |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
1. Even 6 handed, I don't like bringing QJo for a raise. This hand is easily dominated and needs a special board to really make pay-dirt. I would even just call with QJs. You want to see the flop cheaply.
2. I think you played the rest of the hand perfectly. I put button on AQ. |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
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1. Even 6 handed, I don't like bringing QJo for a raise. This hand is easily dominated and needs a special board to really make pay-dirt. I would even just call with QJs. You want to see the flop cheaply. 2. I think you played the rest of the hand perfectly. I put button on AQ. [/ QUOTE ] 1) PF is a standard raise, and I'd rather fold than limp with it. 2) Is that because hero showed that villain just called his river raise? |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
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1. Even 6 handed, I don't like bringing QJo for a raise. This hand is easily dominated and needs a special board to really make pay-dirt. I would even just call with QJs. You want to see the flop cheaply. 2. I think you played the rest of the hand perfectly. I put button on AQ. [/ QUOTE ] Throwing away QJo is too weak and you dont want to limp 6 handed too often so a raise is good, after the three bet on the flop I think your behind to a lot or different hands, I dont like the turn lead, especially after the flop cap, I do like the river c/r |
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
Your pre-flop advice is bad. It's six handed. You'd rather just try to steal the blinds or at least be in position against the blinds for the rest of the hand. It's true that QJ isn't that good, but you won't have the implied odds to limp and hope to hit a ridiculous flop.
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Re: 5/10 QJ hand
i'd just check/call the turn. button is showing a lot of strength and we are behind more hands than we are ahead of here. Sure, AK is within his range, but I don't think too many players will cap with just TPTK on a board with 3 broadways. He has 2 pair or better most of the time here, IMO.
I'd bet out the river and call a raise. |
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