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Old 10-09-2006, 09:40 AM
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Default Week 7 CFB Notions (and Season Recap)

Hey all,

As you probably know, it has not been a good season for me so far. After this weekend, I went back to look at my plays to this point to try to get some answers. My conclusion: despite consistently getting better-than-average numbers, my plays have not been especially good. Frankly, I don't think that my luck has been good either, in a number of regards (i.e. lots of close losses, some bad beats, and, WORST of all, a bunch of Jekyll and Hyde performances from teams that I was trying to back/fade).

But, the fact is that I don't think I have a lot of room to complain. As bad as my weekend was, it could have easily been worse. Temple and Texas might have looked like "right" sides, but neither one was, and I was fortunate to win both. And, that has held true throughout the season; I'd say that, looking back, I don't feel good about almost one-third of my wins. Just as I could be well in the black with some slightly better luck, I could be MUCH farther in the red if my luck were terrible to this point, rather than just bad.

So, the point that I am trying to make is that, to this point, the "handicapping" hasn't been there. I've been so caught up in trying to find "value" that I haven't paid sufficient attention to finding good match-ups. So, yesterday, I worked my ass off, and I think that I've found a bunch of plays that I'm going to feel good about, win or lose.

The basis of my handicapping strategy is as follows:

1) Look to play teams that have outstanding run offenses or run defenses; look to fade teams that cannot run or cannot stop the run
2) Look to play teams that win the turnover battle; look to fade teams that lose the turnover battle
3) Look for teams that have success/problems against one specific type of opponent (e.g. running QB's)

So, with that in mind, here are my plays for this week. So far, it's a mixed bag as far as getting the best of the number, but I think that I've got the best of it by a smidge to this point.

2 units - Oklahoma -19.5 -105 vs Iowa St.
2 units - Oklahoma/Iowa St. o46 -105
2 units - Bowling Green -11 -105 vs E. Michigan
2 units - Bowling Green/E. Michigan o49.5 -105
2 units - S. Florida -4.5 -105 at UNC (AWFUL number [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img])
2 units - W. Virginia -25.5 -105 vs Syracuse
2 units - Colorado St./Air Force u47 -105
2 units - Tulsa -2.5 -105 at ECU
2 units - Kansas St. +14 -115 vs Nebraska (GREAT number [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])
2 units - UCLA +11.5 -108 at Oregon
2 units - Oregon St. +11 -105 at Washington

Write-ups will come periodically. As always, all thoughts are appreciated.

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Old 10-09-2006, 10:24 AM
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2 units - Oklahoma/Iowa St. o46 -105

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don't know how i missed this one after looking at okla/texas 48 for so long last week. when i saw this post i went to books real quick to bet it, heh. doh.

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2 units - Bowling Green/E. Michigan o49.5 -105


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bet this about 15 minutes before seeing this post. maybe we were listening to same material, don't know.

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2 units - S. Florida -4.5 -105 at UNC (AWFUL number [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img])

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i can see how you might have bet this, however with a number like this, when predicting, you can't expect UNC to go off as a big dog at home against SFU. there will always be bettors who keep this down. i should've had this same thought when betting florida +1.5.

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2 units - Kansas St. +14 -115 vs Nebraska (GREAT number [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])


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i nearly bet this +13.5 last night but just stared at the number and didn't think about it. sometimes subconscious thoughts are more true than conscious ones.

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2 units - Oregon St. +11 -105 at Washington

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huskies a natural fade after the effort they put up against the trojans

some good ncaa work being done in irc channel on sunday
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:05 PM
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2 units - S. Florida -4.5 -105 at UNC (AWFUL number [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img])

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i can see how you might have bet this, however with a number like this, when predicting, you can't expect UNC to go off as a big dog at home against SFU. there will always be bettors who keep this down. i should've had this same thought when betting florida +1.5.



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That Florida +1 looks good now. I was upset earlier when I got it at -1 +114, and it moved against me. Now it looks really smart now.

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Old 10-12-2006, 09:31 PM
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some good ncaa work being done in irc channel on sunday

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what is the irc channel name again?

DN
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:48 PM
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1 unit - Colorado St. +7 -119
1 unit - Colorado St. ML +216

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Old 10-12-2006, 06:22 PM
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S. Florida is now -2.5 -110 at Bowmans ... how much better of a line is -2.5 than -4.5 (besides the 3 and 4 point advantage)?
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:38 PM
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S. Florida is now -2.5 -110 at Bowmans ... how much better of a line is -2.5 than -4.5 (besides the 3 and 4 point advantage)?

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What do you mean, "besides the 3 and 4"? The 3 and 4 are the whole reason 2.5 is better than 4.5, and the difference is huge. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Excluding wins on the 3 and 4, the answer is: 2.5 is not better than 4.5.
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:43 PM
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S. Florida is now -2.5 -110 at Bowmans ... how much better of a line is -2.5 than -4.5 (besides the 3 and 4 point advantage)?

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What do you mean, "besides the 3 and 4"? The 3 and 4 are the whole reason 2.5 is better than 4.5, and the difference is huge. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Excluding wins on the 3 and 4, the answer is: 2.5 is not better than 4.5.

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Haha, you're right, that was a dumb question. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-12-2006, 07:26 PM
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I'd be careful on that Oregon State pick. Last week, the Beavers lost to a WSU team slightly worse than UW by 7 at home, and their losses to ranked teams were both by 4 TDs. At Husky Stadium, I'd set the natural line there around 13 or 14. Also, coming close against an upper-tier team like that when it's not a late collapse, I think actually helps a team momentum wise. I wouldn't be surprised to see UW come out pumped and just destroy the Beavers.

The one pick I do really like is the ISU/Okla over though. Iowa State's defense has been terrible all year long while their offense is very good. I was just about to get on it myself, and then I looked and saw it's up to 49.5 now, so you definitely got a good number there.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:34 PM
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2 units - Colorado St./Air Force u47 -105
1 unit - Colorado St. +7 -119

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Two winners, but two wrong sides...

So much for putting an end to my poor handicapping...

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