Find the boo-boo(s)...QQ UTG turns set

bozlax · #1 10-08-2006, 04:25 PM

I initially thought there was only one. I may be mistaken in that, too.

Nothing particularly notable about the table. Maybe a little tighter than one really wants, but that's about it.

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 6 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB raises, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (9.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets...

DrModern · #2 10-08-2006, 04:38 PM

Hero should have raised the turn?

MrWookie · #3 10-08-2006, 04:43 PM

Flop call shoddy, as is teh turn call.

DrModern · #4 10-08-2006, 04:47 PM

I don't mind the flop call as a table-image protection type thing, but yeah, you def. don't have the odds to make that call.

MrWookie · #5 10-08-2006, 04:57 PM

The image protection here is not worth nearly as much as we're paying for it.

bozlax · #6 10-08-2006, 05:01 PM

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Flop call shoddy, as is teh turn call.

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The turn is the obvious one. Before I comment, what's your action on the flop?

Also, assume that Hero realizes when it's checked to him on the river that he's hashed at least one of the previous streets...are you ok with the river bet?

Buzz-cp · #7 10-08-2006, 05:23 PM

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Flop call shoddy, as is teh turn call.

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The turn is the obvious one. Before I comment, what's your action on the flop?

Also, assume that Hero realizes when it's checked to him on the river that he's hashed at least one of the previous streets...are you ok with the river bet?

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you've got quite an argument to develop to support not betting this river...

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S · #8 10-08-2006, 05:36 PM

i play it the same

edit: wait no i dont. raise the turn

detruncate · #9 10-08-2006, 05:21 PM

Flop call is probably at least close to ok with your BD flush draw getting a probable 11:1 ish.

I'd raise the turn though. Button has called at every opportunity, including a pf cc. BB could easily be on a draw given the flop action, and if not it'll be a hand like a K or 2-pair+ trying to extract value often enough. Not sure why you thought waiting would be better. Button only has to cc once in a while to add considerable value to what already seems like a goot time to raise -- BB might freeze up with his big hands if the flush hits + when he's on a flush draw you're not likely to get even 1 bet out of him on the river.

bennyhana · #10 10-08-2006, 05:46 PM

Not raising the turn is bad poker. You gave button very nice odds if he is calling with a flush draw. He is still going to call if you raise(correctly), but you just doubled his odds. Plus BB probably is check raising with Kx and may likely 3 bet, giving you the oppurtunity to trap button for more bets.

river...duh.