flop decision

mr pink · #1 10-06-2006, 04:24 PM

borgata 20/40 - great game, playing v. loose and kinda aggro at times

5 limpers to me in the sb with AQo, I'm have a solid image and have shown down mostly premium hands. I raise, bb and all the limpers call.

flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] - 14 sbs

two questions...

love/hate the preflop raise?

anybody like going for a flop check/raise here?

thoughts appreciated.

brettbrettr · #2 10-06-2006, 04:33 PM

I'd raise pre-flop and bet the flop.

34TheTruth34 · #3 10-06-2006, 04:53 PM

PFR is fine, I'd make it maybe 50-75% of the time, depending on the lineup.

This is a clear flop bet IMO. If nobody has anything to call with, fine. Just be happy to take it down. I see no reason to get tricky here. I'd also bet if I raised with KQs, KJs, TT, etc.

If I didn't raise PF, I'd be much more inclined to check the flop.

brettbrettr · #4 10-06-2006, 05:00 PM

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If I didn't raise PF, I'd be much more inclined to check the flop.

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This I agree with.

Also, once someone calls your flop bet on this board you can c/r the turn which is always fun.

MacGuyV · #5 10-07-2006, 04:01 PM

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Also, once someone calls your flop bet on this board you can c/r the turn which is always fun.

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Yes, seems like a good spot for a screwplay.

thirddan · #6 10-06-2006, 05:26 PM

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PFR is fine, I'd make it maybe 50-75% of the time, depending on the lineup.

This is a clear flop bet IMO. If nobody has anything to call with, fine. Just be happy to take it down. I see no reason to get tricky here. I'd also bet if I raised with KQs, KJs, TT, etc.

If I didn't raise PF, I'd be much more inclined to check the flop.

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i would raise KQs and KJs preflop here 100% of the time, but im not betting this flop with either of them...can you go into why you think betting here with those hands is good?

i dont even know if i would bet this flop without at least an A...i think a problem with betting this board w/o an A is that you will get called and have no idea where you stand, i would much rather check and watch the action that unfolds...

for the actual hand i raise it some of the time, don't know a percent prob depends on my mood/table image blah blah...having raised preflop i would just bet out, if i had just completed preflop i would c/r...

RobbyD · #7 10-06-2006, 05:03 PM

This is such a dry board, I think bet/3bet is much better.

MitchL · #8 10-06-2006, 05:08 PM

I raise this pf 100% of the time. Bet flop, no one will bet it for you unless they have an ace and in that case they will likely raise to see if you have KK or QQ, etc. Your choice between 3 betting or cr turn. I dont think it makes a huge difference overall. The flop bet gives you more options on turn than a whiffed flop cr. If they fold they fold.

private joker · #9 10-06-2006, 05:10 PM

I don't make this PFR very often. In a large multi-way (7-ways if the BB doesn't fold) pot, AQo doesn't stand up as well. It's a hand that does best against fewer players. I think with 2 limpers it's a raise; with 5 it's a complete.

Checking the flop would be fine if you could depend on someone in LP to bet it; but like R.D. said this is a dry flop and it makes sense to just go ahead and bet it (something I'd do even if I limped pre).

brettbrettr · #10 10-06-2006, 05:15 PM

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Checking the flop would be fine if you could depend on someone in LP to bet it;

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What about EP? Do you really care who bets this flop?