River play? Kings 5/10nl

[Fianchetto]

Party 5-10nl 6-max

Hand #1

Unknown ($2500) opens on the button for $40, I ($1000) raise to $125 from the SB w/ K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] , BB folds, button calls.

2 players ($260)

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I lead for $160, button calls

2 players ($580)

Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check, check

2 players ($580)

River: T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet $222, button raises to $1200, I ??


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Another river question here:

Effective stack of $1250.

Hand #2

CO opens for $40, I call on the button w/ A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

2 players ($95)

Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

CO leads $60, I call.

2 players ($215)

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

CO bets $140, I call.

2 players ($495)

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

CO bets $492, I ??



Comments on all streets appreciated.

[yvesaint]

hand 1 the way its played i call the river raise. though i would have bet more

hand 2 i like it except for preflop. fold the river.

[Fianchetto]

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hand 1 the way its played i call the river raise. though i would have bet more


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If you bet more on the river do you still fold to raise?

I don't see what I beat on the board, seems like everything got there...

[dmoney]

I think hand #1 is an easy fold. u beat absolutely 3 hands. one pair jacks.a pair of queens or a bluff. that is it.

Hands that do beat u, 9T, TJ, 78, KQ, Any 2 hearts, 22, 99, TT, JJ, AA, ur way behind almost all the time

I think a call here over the long run will make u go broke many times over.

Hand #2
I call river bet on. Well actually, depends on the opp but it seems like way to big of a bet for a made flush and also why would he be trying to push u off ur hand if he had a full house. I see Ax here alot. as well as i do see u losing here sometimes as well 2 a bigger ace and a flush obv. i still think the bet seems like he doesn't want you to call. He has a good hand but not a super strong hand.

Although im a donkey so u can basically flame away now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

maybe this is why yvs is good and i'm not haha.

[Orcman]

Maybe i suck too cause before readin yves and your answer my reasonming was pretty much the same as you.

I fold hand 1 and make a crying call on hand 2 and expect to win maybe 50%

[emil3000]

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hand 1 the way its played i call the river raise. though i would have bet more

hand 2 i like it except for preflop. fold the river.

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I really don't understand why you want to call this river... Explain please?

[yvesaint]

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hand 1 the way its played i call the river raise. though i would have bet more

hand 2 i like it except for preflop. fold the river.

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I really don't understand why you want to call this river... Explain please?

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because any hand i expect that beats me except maybe Tx bets the turn

because our river bet looks weak and semi-for value and i dont think our hand can be defined as strong as KK in villains eyes

[billyjex]

calling the river in hand 1 is spew

[Bet]

I wouldn't call in hand 1, no way.

I would have bet the turn though, lots worse hands will still call and if you check you are no better off and will probably end up putting in the same amount of $ as a bet. If he raises you can be happy to fold. As it played out you have to bet more on the river, you hand is very under represented and jacks will pay off way more than your bet.

[Requin]

Fold both. I like how you played except for preflop with AT.