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Old 09-27-2006, 11:29 PM
niss niss is offline
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Default Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

What would you have done when checked to you on the turn? Easy pot bet? Or do you put villain on 2-3 and slow down because your high hand at the moment is zippo, and villain is holding cards you need? Would you have played this differently at any other point?

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $637.80
UTG+1: $758.90
MP1: $312.85
MP2: $6.62
MP3: $1264.84
Hero: $696.35
Button: $778.99
SB: $401.85
BB: $588

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0, 5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $25</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $75</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero DOES WHAT?</font>

edit: I omitted the read on villian. He's tight. Good player.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:36 PM
Split Suit Split Suit is offline
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Default Re: Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

pot size is roughly $165? I like a $125 bet here, and a re-evaluation on the river. this bet encourages diamonds with a crap low to come along. also, if just called, it allows a lot of room to take the river away given what youve represented.

interesting hand btw...what happened?
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

shoots himself in the head for posting such a stupid hand.

and then pots it.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

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shoots himself in the head for posting such a stupid hand.

and then pots it.

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And people wonder why there is such little traffic in this forum. Well wonder no more.

Have any of your posts in this forum been anything other than nasty or condescending?

The forum was better off without you. Go [censored] yourself.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

look dude, you asked in the title whether you thought the hand was interesting. I told you my opinion, with comedic emphasis.

The hand is uninteresting because you have a lock low with a big draw to high. You want to bet the max for a number of reasons--to pressure highs like sets or two pair to fold (or to put in big money when you're freerolling), and to get money out of competing low hands that could be c-feited on the riv giving you the whole pot before they can safely fold, and to generally create the impression of an action player. There is no risk, because you are never folding in this hand no matter what river comes (what--are you going to check behind and then fold if the river doesn't give you a high and the other guy bets into you? please.), which means that you might as well be the one leading.

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edit--in fact, given that you and the villain are both fully stacked here, you made a pretty bad mistake not raising the flop for the maximum amount. Same stuff applies there. You can't fold on the hand, so capitalize on whatever fold equity you have against hands you'd prefer to fold out, while simultaneously trapping chips into the pot from hands you are ahead of, or that you want to stick around when they get c-feited. I mean, this is ABC plo8.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:35 AM
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look dude, you asked in the title whether you thought the hand was interesting. I told you my opinion, with comedic emphasis.

The hand is uninteresting because you have a lock low with a big draw to high. You want to bet the max for a number of reasons--to pressure highs like sets or two pair to fold (or to put in big money when you're freerolling), and to get money out of competing low hands that could be c-feited on the riv giving you the whole pot before they can safely fold, and to generally create the impression of an action player. There is no risk, because you are never folding in this hand no matter what river comes (what--are you going to check behind and then fold if the river doesn't give you a high and the other guy bets into you? please.), which means that you might as well be the one leading.

WM


edit--in fact, given that you and the villain are both fully stacked here, you made a pretty bad mistake not raising the flop for the maximum amount. Same stuff applies there. You can't fold on the hand, so capitalize on whatever fold equity you have against hands you'd prefer to fold out, while simultaneously trapping chips into the pot from hands you are ahead of, or that you want to stick around when they get c-feited. I mean, this is ABC plo8.

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refreshing

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Old 09-28-2006, 10:13 AM
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You want to bet the max for a number of reasons--to pressure highs like sets or two pair to fold (or to put in big money when you're freerolling), and to get money out of competing low hands that could be c-feited on the riv giving you the whole pot before they can safely fold, and to generally create the impression of an action player. There is no risk, because you are never folding in this hand no matter what river comes (what--are you going to check behind and then fold if the river doesn't give you a high and the other guy bets into you? please.), which means that you might as well be the one leading.

WM


edit--in fact, given that you and the villain are both fully stacked here, you made a pretty bad mistake not raising the flop for the maximum amount. Same stuff applies there. You can't fold on the hand, so capitalize on whatever fold equity you have against hands you'd prefer to fold out, while simultaneously trapping chips into the pot from hands you are ahead of, or that you want to stick around when they get c-feited. I mean, this is ABC plo8.

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What he said.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

WM,

I think there is an interesting point to this though. If you're c-r on the turn and you both had plenty left - doing a Sklansky here - would you reraise again or just call?

gl

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Old 09-28-2006, 01:44 PM
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WM,

I think there is an interesting point to this though. If you're c-r on the turn and you both had plenty left - doing a Sklansky here - would you reraise again or just call?

gl

dd

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How much are you saying is behind. The amount in OP or something more? If they both have $600ish, then a pot-sized bet and a max raise on the turn will easily commit them both, so just shove.

If stacks are super deep, then the whole line will change, because 23 with a pair + dmnds or something like that can start to have you worrying about a huge quartering.

But for these stacks, it's all going in on the turn if you get c-r'd.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: Interesting PLO8 hand? Maybe?

lol.

where did u find that pic of the fat guy bangin that chick who looks like she's all bored and bent over because she has to be? was funny.
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