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Old 09-27-2006, 03:27 PM
stickdude stickdude is offline
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Default Any point to a c-bet here?

Pretty early on in the session - haven't played with either villian yet.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ??????
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

I wouldn't.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

I'm allways c-betting this because this flop is just as scary for us as for our opponents. I feel like I pick up the pot here quitte oftenly. But mayb I'm biased by my results over a small sample so if this is wrong, I'll stop doing this. Maybe a very experienced player could jump in and tell us whats the best play? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

I c-bet this for the same reason Veron. This flop is really scary for the two other players and they will fold often enough to make it profitable. There is also a possibility we get a caller and hit a non club K or a Q on the turn, which gives us probably the best hand. I would fold to a flop check/raise.

And if you add one more limper in this hand I would be much more likely to check/fold since I feel this makes it from a bit profitable to not-profitable, but I cannot base this on statistics [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:33 PM
TheGunner TheGunner is offline
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

It's not as scary for our opponents. They don't have the same hand, do they?
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

I was gonna answer this but realized I had no clue what to do really. I would probably c-bet here and then fold to a raise or check the turn.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

I c/f flop.
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

A bet does accomplish nothing here. Is it worth a c/c? Nope. We have 2, 3, 4 or 6 outs with alot redraws and the possibility we still hold the best hand. I c/f.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

Check/fold. You will often get called by many clubs, aces and any pair. It's certainly a waste of cash to c-bet.
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Jeff P Jeff P is offline
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Default Re: Any point to a c-bet here?

What comes to mind with me here is the overcards section in SSHE. One of the points NPA makes about overcards is that overcards prefer a ragged board. This board certainly is not ragged. Your opponents are not going to fold any club of course, and you have to dodge a bunch of non-outs twice. I'd check/fold this flop and move on to the next hand.
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