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Old 09-21-2006, 07:20 PM
kiemo kiemo is offline
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Default Is this a river fold

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, SB folds.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero ??

Pot is pretty big at this point and I think this is an easy call, but I dont like MP2 hanging around.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:23 PM
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wtf... how about betting the flop?! On the river, I bet/fold.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:32 PM
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wtf... how about betting the flop?! On the river, I bet/fold.

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Old 09-21-2006, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Is this an

Something is wrong with your hand history/converter...

There are only 5 players who called PF yet it shows 6 on the flop, what happened?

At any rate, it doesn't make much difference.

As Str8 is suggesting, you should def. have bet the flop.

I can't agree about the river though...I bet-call here.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:39 PM
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wtf... how about betting the flop?! On the river, I bet/fold.

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You honestly think betting the flop here is a good idea?

If yes tell me why you think top pair no kicker OOP against five opponents on a 2 flush, 3 straight board is a real solid value bet.

And the converter thing, it came out really screwy and I did my best to fix it.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:43 PM
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Four ways, I don't mind a check and see on the river. I think we can fold to a bet and a raise. I don't mind the flop check, either, as a check and see.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:46 PM
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Four ways, I don't mind a check and see on the river. I think we can fold to a bet and a raise. I don't mind the flop check, either, as a check and see.

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I'm assuming you call given the river action, though?
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Is this a river fold

I don't mind checking the flop here ... I always find the JT9 board one of the worst board for limping field (especially as it's a 6 way pot ... and or two suit) ... I'm hoping MP3 or CO is a total nob here and may bet with crap (so I can check raise)

on the river I probably take a bet fold line
... after you bet the turn and check the river MP1 could be on a steal here
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I call as played.
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:27 PM
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You honestly think betting the flop here is a good idea?

If yes tell me why you think top pair no kicker OOP against five opponents on a 2 flush, 3 straight board is a real solid value bet.

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With J4o I would check but I think having the gutshot swings this to a bet both because our hand is better and because there are more things we would like to fold.
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