Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes Limit
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-17-2006, 02:13 AM
macdaddy991 macdaddy991 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Capt FPS
Posts: 1,016
Default Big Pot,, River Action

No reads, new to table

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

I grit my teeth and call, this is going to ba a large pot.

Flop: (14 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: (9 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-17-2006, 02:17 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 10,661
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

Check/raise the flop. Don't really understand why you didn't. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

e: If you wait for the turn you are basically always putting in two bets with the worst hand.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-17-2006, 02:26 AM
macdaddy991 macdaddy991 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Capt FPS
Posts: 1,016
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

[ QUOTE ]
Check/raise the flop. Don't really understand why you didn't. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I am not disagreeing with you, just asking what check raising will accomplish. I have no backdoor draw besides 2 pair or trips. I am most likely behind and am only calling the flop to improve. I understand the similar hand in SSHE but am not sure if it applies here.

Also with TPTK, I am not worried about an ace falling as I dominate AK and AQ now. The flush draws will not be making a mistake calling 2 cold.

My plan was to see the flop action and perhaps checkraise the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-17-2006, 03:17 AM
VickreyAuction VickreyAuction is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 2,162
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

As played, I would bet the river. I would have folded PF though.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-17-2006, 03:31 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,590
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

Donk the flop.

edit: River is easy easy bet/call.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-17-2006, 04:01 PM
DrModern DrModern is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: O.K., so I\'m a fratboy
Posts: 2,463
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

I'll add my voice to the the army of check-raise-the-flop dudes.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-17-2006, 07:36 PM
RAHZero RAHZero is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Spewtown
Posts: 1,351
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Check/raise the flop. Don't really understand why you didn't. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I am not disagreeing with you, just asking what check raising will accomplish. I have no backdoor draw besides 2 pair or trips. I am most likely behind and am only calling the flop to improve. I understand the similar hand in SSHE but am not sure if it applies here.

Also with TPTK, I am not worried about an ace falling as I dominate AK and AQ now. The flush draws will not be making a mistake calling 2 cold.

My plan was to see the flop action and perhaps checkraise the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

You don't need to have the best hand anywhere near all the time for a check-raise to be the correct play on the flop. You are in perfect position to check-raise here, since it forces the field to call two cold. Even if you only have 30% equity on this flop, if a raise will get you heads up with 40% equity, your equity has gone up by more than the additional 1 SB you've invested. As played, bet the river. Button is telegraphing AK or TT here, and neither MP2 nor CO have shown any strength. Easy value bet.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-17-2006, 02:19 AM
bennyhana bennyhana is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: The North Pole
Posts: 4,635
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

quits poker.

why didn't you check raise the flop? Waiting for the turn?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-17-2006, 06:39 PM
Buzz-cp Buzz-cp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Getting heated & cooled...
Posts: 6,999
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

Atlantis-

Why are you asking about rivre action? Pretty standard, no? What am I missing?

buzz
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-17-2006, 06:44 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Henderson, NV
Posts: 8,076
Default Re: Big Pot,, River Action

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

I grit my teeth and call, this is going to ba a large pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you're going to grit your teeth and call...

[ QUOTE ]
Flop: (14 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls...

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
I am most likely behind and am only calling the flop to improve.

[/ QUOTE ]

You can't be thinking this way when you flop TPTK. Grit your teeth and check-raise.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.