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Old 09-07-2006, 08:19 AM
PaulMTC PaulMTC is offline
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Default Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?


Interested to know how you would have played this hand.

Villain was solid player.

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $111.75
UTG+1: $51
CO: $30
Button: $70.28
SB: $172.75
Hero: $120.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, 2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($32, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, SB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($92, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $29.75</font>

Hero ?????
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:27 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

when he check calls the turn i'd beworried that i am beat or think he has the straight and is scard of the flush. the river bet is an autocall imo.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

That river bet sort of looks like a block to me.

I'd raise AI

I'm guessing his range is something like two pair or a straight

I don't think you're beat very often here.
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

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That river bet sort of looks like a block to me.

I'd raise AI

I'm guessing his range is something like two pair or a straight

I don't think you're beat very often here.

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This looks like a sucker bet to me. Giving me good enough odds to call with a weak hand. I call for sure but there is no way I would raise here. You have a 5 high flush for crying out loud.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:07 AM
ChicagoPoker ChicagoPoker is offline
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

Can I ask what's wrong with the PF call? If villian is only gonna raise to 3BB, why not play a hand like this that has the potential to be a monster and he won't be able to put you on later?

I kind of like the PF call, and I think if villain keeps doing it, it will more than pay for itself because the hands you win with cards like these are usually pretty large.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:12 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

guys, wtf?

this river is an easy push

(fold preflop though)
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

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Can I ask what's wrong with the PF call?

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A lot of it has to do with being oop. It's gonna be harder to get paid off when we hit, and more expensive when we're beat. Also, 53s is a pretty lousy hand, but I'd call with it every now and then on the button if CO raised to 3x.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:34 AM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

Call the river, he isn't folding a better flush and while he 'might' call a push for ~$50 more with a straight, I doubt it makes up for the times he has a better flush or just folds.
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: Not nut flush - How would you play this hand?

While he could have a higher flush, it's much more likely that he holds two pair or a straight.

Even a slight chance that he'd call with either a straight or two pair makes going all-in a viable option.

If he does infact hold a higher flush, what two diamonds is he holding? Here are the possibilities: 86, 9T, JT

89d, AJd, Ax are raising the flop in all likelyhood. AKd is raising somewhere too

There are 11 combos of AJ (that aren't two diamonds) that might call the flop. You can discount some of the AJ combos slightly (namely the ones without diamonds).

KQ is also a definite possibility. There are 9 combos left that might play this way.

In conclusion, while he may have a higher flush, a straight or two pair are much more likely.

I haven't even included the slight possibility that he has a set
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:32 AM
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Call the river, he isn't folding a better flush and while he 'might' call a push for ~$50 more with a straight, I doubt it makes up for the times he has a better flush or just folds.

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I be agreein wit this man.
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