Deuces never loses!

[Pokey]

<font color="blue">Loose table, bad players all around.</font>

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $74.95
UTG+1: $100.50
CO: $30.85
Button: $114.60
SB: $167.50
Pokey: $99.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Pokey is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $2.5</font>, SB calls, Pokey calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

<font color="blue">Standard set-mining with bitchin' implied odds.</font>

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.5, 5 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Pokey bets $3</font>....

<font color="blue">Now, don't hate.

There are two players between me and the preflop raiser. There are five players in the hand. I'm second to act and I make a horribly weak bet. This bet wears many hats. It is intended to:

1. Trap some players for $3.
2. Look weak enough to induce a good-sized raise.
3. Let me three-bet all-in and still look like a flush draw.

If all goes well I will get extra money, induce a bluff, and disguise my hand. What do you think?

P.S.: If the preflop raiser had been on my more immediate left, I would have just gone for a check-raise instead.</font>

[kitaristi0]

Many draws are getting those bitchin' implied odds you hold so dear.

[Pokey]

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Many draws are getting those bitchin' implied odds you hold so dear.

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Only if I'm not raised.

It's a gamble, but isn't it a reasonable one?

[kitaristi0]

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Many draws are getting those bitchin' implied odds you hold so dear.

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Only if I'm not raised.

It's a gamble, but isn't it a reasonable one?

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I think you're overestimating the frequency that someone raises these weak bets in 5-way pots.

[Jamougha]

I hate. With 5 players I stop worrying about relative position so much as the pfr'er is just going to give up unless he really has something. You have ~8xpot effective so 2/3 pot+ is good here, but I hate this underbet.

[zaphod]

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I hate. With 5 players I stop worrying about relative position so much as the pfr'er is just going to give up unless he really has something. You have ~8xpot effective so 2/3 pot+ is good here, but I hate this underbet.

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I would usually bet 3/4 pot here. You need to be pretty sure that the preflop raiser will raise freqeuently to make the 3 dollar bet be right.

[samsonite2100]

Yeah, I only like this if you have a particular read that PF raiser goes after weak bets. Also, unless you make weak OOP bets in multiway pots with your draws and marginal made hands, this kind of bet is a giant flashing red light that you have a monster.

[n1nj4.br]

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I hate. With 5 players I stop worrying about relative position so much as the pfr'er is just going to give up unless he really has something. You have ~8xpot effective so 2/3 pot+ is good here, but I hate this underbet.

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No reason to get fancy pokey.

[SubaruSTiMike]

It's not horrible, remember guys, there's no set equation to play this game, yes he has low set and the bored is drawy, standard line means check raise or lead pot, but if you have a real good read, that villain WILL raise, then go ahead and induce that raise. If non heart falls, we bet again we'll probably get called by whoever called the flop minus the flush draw. I guess this is a good way to get more money in. The question is would we have gotten the same amount if we went standard line, I don't think so, because if you pot most will fold, but if someone has TPGK or overcards then they might call.

[Spellmen]

I don't like it either. PFR is only really likely to raise if he has an overpair after this weak lead and a bunch of call, also probably AKh, but he probably raises a 3/4 pot bet with these hands just as often