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at PP, the rake is $5 for this game (6 handed)...unreal!!
do people just not get it..or is it bad players playing here so they don't care? or is it the game is so good that good players don't mind paying it? i've never seen $5 rake ever! unreal! |
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Rake is a rip-off, profit margins are huge, why charge $5? Because they can. Ultimately its the poor players that drive the games and they aren't incentivised by rake. The trouble is virtually every voice in poker has his or her finger in the pie, so they say they say nothing - just look at the advertisements here. If the poker community organsied itself then perhaps things would improve.
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i'm pretty sure the rake at any brick & mortar casino in the world is worse than that?
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i'm pretty sure the rake at any brick & mortar casino in the world is worse than that? bbb [/ QUOTE ] No. Unless you mean compared to the size of the game, then yes. |
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The highest rake I've seen is 5 per hand and that's about as high as it get's in raked hand games. I'm not sure what it translates to, but the raked time games could come out to more if it's slow. Some places you pay up to 8 per half hour.
Let's say your playing a mid limit game and you get 25 HPR flopped. That's 125 in rake per hour. While a time rake your going to get 160 per hour, raked. If you get in more hands per hour, then it'll be higher for the first rather than the second. 5 dollars is usually the cap, at some places it's 4 or 3. But most places never go higher (atleast that I've been to in Vegas or Tunica). |
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The mistake that people make is comparing the services, they are completely different - they are only similar in so much hands of poker are played. For every $ rake over 90c* is money they can are free to take profits, sponsor give to rakeback. How much for the casinos?
Some players pay $150k a year or more in rake for just what is just a service. If you broke it down into its component parts, and analysed it as a product that you didn't gamble on, you have to wonder what would be a reasonable cost for the service. If this happened in other industries government watchdogs would be all over them; but they fall in the niche of the gambling industry, except they don't gamble in the same way as casinos or bookmakers, they do so like any other business. If companies can compete by offering 35% of their revenue back, just consider how much they make. Admittedly, the excessive profits are driven a healthy advertising campaign which has swelled the numbers, but there must be a saturation level and maybe at some point someone will compete on rake. * I had some informal confirmation of this. |
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If this happened in other industries government watchdogs would be all over them; [/ QUOTE ] On what legal grounds? |
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i'm pretty sure the rake at any brick & mortar casino in the world is worse than that? bbb [/ QUOTE ] that can vary quite a bit. a lot of casino's that play games this high will do time games, and if you have slow play, it still wouldlnt be close to as bad. i know when i play 40/80 we use a $8 time charge/half hr. which isnt bad b/c the only time the game gets slowed down is when theres a big multiway pot or the fishies are confoooosed. |
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when i play 40/80 we use a $8 time charge/half hr. which isnt bad b/c the only time the game gets slowed down is when theres a big multiway pot or the fishies are confoooosed. [/ QUOTE ] $8 time charge/half hr x 2 x 10 =$160 per hour per table. You will never play more then 30 hands per hour so in effect you are paying more then $5 a hand... |
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Im positive the rake at the 100/200 in Bellagio in $72. Five dollars, while high for a short-handed table is a bit steep, but is still very easy to overcome. %2.5 of one big bet for a winning player is quite minuscule.
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