25/50 & 10/20 Party (2 Hands)

duck_butter · #1 08-25-2006, 02:03 PM

HAND 1
Villain is stoned

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

MP1 ($4650)
MP2 ($18325)
MP3 ($1322)
CO ($2325)
Button ($7341)
SB ($2294)
Hero ($5982.85)
UTG ($3901)
UTG+1 ($2176.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $25.
UTG calls $50, 6 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB folds, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: ($150) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $250, Hero raises to $500, UTG raises to $2150.

I assume he has AK here and fold?

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HAND 2
villain is somewhat fishy

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

BB ($4615.89)
UTG ($2233)
Hero ($1973)
UTG+2 ($2016.50)
MP1 ($3951.59)
MP2 ($856.50)
MP3 ($2706.50)
CO ($1568.50)
Button ($1354.50)
SB ($859.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
1 fold, Hero calls $20, 4 folds, CO raises to $70, 1 fold, SB (poster) raises to $160, 1 fold, Hero calls $150, CO folds.

Flop: ($430) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($430) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $250, SB raises to $500

Push or fold? If he was deeper, I'd fold, but he's only got $180 left. The double check, raise here feels really weird against this guy.

fslexcduck · #2 08-25-2006, 02:23 PM

hand number 1 - why would you ever ever ever raise that turn bet? what are you thinking?

number 2 is meh, do whatever. he maybe has you but he's so short who cares?

Vigorish · #3 08-25-2006, 02:37 PM

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hand number 1 - why would you ever ever ever raise that turn bet? what are you thinking?

number 2 is meh, do whatever. he maybe has you but he's so short who cares?

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Hand 1 is [censored] gross.

Vig

duck_butter · #4 08-25-2006, 03:11 PM

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hand number 1 - why would you ever ever ever raise that turn bet? what are you thinking?

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You're right. I'm a donkey. Not sure what I was thinking (it had been a rough day).

#5 08-25-2006, 03:11 PM

is stoned his name or is he stoned off weed?

duck_butter · #6 08-25-2006, 03:49 PM

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is stoned his name or is he stoned off weed?

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I can't tell if you are joking here or making a semi-serious comment about the guy playing abnormally. To clarify, "stoned" is his name.

Jason Strasser (strassa2) · #7 08-25-2006, 03:15 PM

i think raising the turn bet is pretty bad, but as played I call it off anyway. I think there is enough money in the pot and its unlikely enough that you are screwed here often enough to justify a fold.

hand 2, probably fold preflop, and if you dont fold preflop, please do not fold the flop.

-Jason

duck_butter · #8 08-25-2006, 03:58 PM

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i think raising the turn bet is pretty bad, but as played I call it off anyway. I think there is enough money in the pot and its unlikely enough that you are screwed here often enough to justify a fold.

hand 2, probably fold preflop, and if you dont fold preflop, please do not fold the flop.

-Jason

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Thanks for your thoughts Jason.

Hand 1: I did decide to pay off here. Limping under the gun with AK and not taking a stab at the pot against the blinds when checked to on the flop seemed like a bizarre way to play AK. I figured it was very likely he had a King here with no A (and a slim chance he's going overboard with 2 pair or set).
Hand 2: After taking another look at the way the hand was played pf and the chip stacks, I agree I should prob fold pf here. I pushed on the turn and he showed down KK to take the pot.

ski · #9 08-25-2006, 03:55 PM

hand 1. Would you EVER play AK like that pf? Does villian know that?

Hand 2. He could easily have AA or KK with a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I prob fold. this looks like a strong line from a shorty donks perspective

duck_butter · #10 08-25-2006, 04:03 PM

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hand 1. Would you EVER play AK like that pf? Does villian know that?

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Not often, but yes on occasion. No, he doesn't.

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this looks like a strong line from a shorty donks perspective

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exactly, this is what I've come to realize after some contemplation