5/10 KK hand against Facial_Hair

[Azalin]

Opponent is one of you i guess Its the third time in a row that i raised his preflop raise so..
Also i dont play much limit so forgive me if this is an easy one.
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SB ($1909)
BB ($995)
UTG ($1816)
MP ($1509)
Hero ($1113)
Button ($1499)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $135</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $100.

Flop: ($285) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $200</font>, MP calls $1374 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1859

[TheWorstPlayer]

if you are FH with 55 preflop, do you call your re-raise or do you fold? if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is). Postflop I would check. If you're ahead, he probably has 2 outs at most, and if you're behind, you want your free shot at your 4-6 outer.

[Azalin]

How much would you reraise here? What hands do you put him on?

[TheWorstPlayer]

I would re-raise to 175 or so. And obviously he will have a wide range to open in MP. He will have a narrower range to call a re-raise with, though, mostly consisting of pocket pairs.

[Prevaricator]

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if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is).

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wrong. i dont feel like explaining why atm

[donkey]

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if you are FH with 55 preflop, do you call your re-raise or do you fold? if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is). Postflop I would check. If you're ahead, he probably has 2 outs at most, and if you're behind, you want your free shot at your 4-6 outer.

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TWP, dont play like such a girl. raising to 175 is scared poker.

arguing that the raise is too smal because calling 135 with 55 is +ev is retarded too. so if we're playing with 1 million behind, i have to raise from $35 to $150,000 with big pairs? your logic is always so bad it hurts.

[Moonshine]

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if you are FH with 55 preflop, do you call your re-raise or do you fold? if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is). Postflop I would check. If you're ahead, he probably has 2 outs at most, and if you're behind, you want your free shot at your 4-6 outer.

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calling this reraise with 55 is retarded. you cant call just for set value since hero isnt just reraising with big pairs obviously and sometimes even when you do flop a set he can get away from his hand (as we see here).

in order for calling with 5's to be profitable you would have to take down the pot a fair amount of time you miss your hand which is going to be difficult to do, since pretty much every flop not containing a 5 in it sucks for 55.

just light 100 dollars on fire next time.

[TheWorstPlayer]

meh. the point is when it is so close for you to be able to cut out implied odds there is no point to do so. not that you should re-raise to 200K if you are sitting with 1 million. sorry, i'm not expressing myself clearly.

[gergery]

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if you are FH with 55 preflop, do you call your re-raise or do you fold? if you call (and I would) that indicates that calling is +EV. that indicates that your re-raise is too small (and it is). Postflop I would check. If you're ahead, he probably has 2 outs at most, and if you're behind, you want your free shot at your 4-6 outer.

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so you'd prefer your opponent to fold a hand like 55 that is way behind when he's out of position here? cause that's what you are implying by saying his call of the $135 is EV+.

-g

[Triumph36]

gergery - no, it's obviously +EV, given that your hand is face up as KK, (even though this is the third time Hero has done this), and you're stacking off on any board, including AQ5.

The only reason I would raise a little more here is because you have a big hand and FH probably wants to take a stand eventually. I will not be raising to 175.