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Old 08-16-2006, 11:08 PM
tminus tminus is offline
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Default Pot control AQ oop (25nl)

Im working on pot control, is this hand too passive?

This table has been VERY loose agro, lots of raising and reraising, and ive been involved in alot of pots without showdowns.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($51.56)
Button ($21.47)
Hero ($29.50)
BB ($12.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Normally I reraise AQ regardless of position but considering the aforementioned, I decided to limp it in here and call any pf raises. Raise or no raise, Im playing this OOP and I dont want to do it with a big pot.

Flop: ($1) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1, UTG calls $1.
Good flop for me but its still only TPTK. I fully expect them to bet each street. Again, I want a small pot here so i can just get to showdown. i elect to open with a fair bet with plans of calling it down unles the board gets ugly

Turn: ($7) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $2.36</font>, Hero calls $2.36, UTG calls $2.36.

River: ($14.08) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: Pot control AQ oop (25nl)

I think I would have reraised in on the flop to get it down to hu. As played, I'd likely call any bet on river and look to reraise.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: Pot control AQ oop (25nl)

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I think I would have reraised in on the flop to get it down to hu.

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wont work at this table, theyre quite loose. raising preflop would just result in a large multiway pot
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Pot control AQ oop (25nl)

if these players are that loose/bad, consider not using pot control in this situation. think about why you are using it in the first place (it's because you don't want to make bets/raises that can't be called by worse hands).

given that you decided to use pot control, your line is good.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:37 PM
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I like your line, repopping the flop leaves you with an odd turn decision if called, and almost forces you to overplay your hand.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Pot control AQ oop (25nl)

You decide not to raise because you expect to get called???

That's the greatest thing in the world that could happen when you raise for value... so raise it up!
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Pot control AQ oop (25nl)

yes but its a small hand, shouldnt i play a small pot then?
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:15 AM
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yes but its a small hand, shouldnt i play a small pot then?

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carnivalhobo is right. the concept of pot control gives your opponents some credit for being able to fold hands worse than yours if you play your hand too hard. if your opponents are terrible and never fold, you might as well felt TPTK against them.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:23 PM
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postflop looks good to me, nh. call a reasonable bet on the river.
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Old 08-17-2006, 03:56 PM
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This table has been VERY loose agro, lots of raising and reraising, and ive been involved in alot of pots without showdowns.


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4-handed, against the opponents described above, TPTK is a monster hand.
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