BB/Hand for Pairs

Nibster · #1 08-12-2006, 05:48 PM

I was just wondering what everyone's BB/Hand is for only pairs. Mine is .72 BB/Hand. I feel like I over play a lot of my pocket pairs and this number should be higher.

To get it:
1. Filter for only 6 max limit games
2. On the General Info. tab, set the filter "Type of Hole Cards" to Pairs
3. Look at the BB/Hand total

lank4ever · #2 08-12-2006, 11:57 PM

My BB per hand over the last 100k over which I am running hot is .84 so you are probably running fairly well. Whatever your sample size is it's almost certainly too small so stop obsessing about your numbers and play the best you know how.

Mossberg · #3 08-13-2006, 12:15 AM

.82 over 120k hands at 3/6.

I've shown a profit with every PP.

I assume you'd need a much larger sample size to draw any conclusions here though.

RustyBrooks · #4 08-13-2006, 12:20 AM

God, I think I must be terrible. I am ashamed to post my number. It is over a pretty small sample size though.

Nibster · #5 08-13-2006, 09:36 PM

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This is from over 190,000 hands. For some people that may not be enough, but for me that's plenty. I also think you can get a general idea from far fewer hands. If I look at any 30,000 hands in my database it will usually be around .70.

I understand many people on this board think stat posts are useless and that's fine. I, on the other hand, like stat posts. I like to compare my stats to players who are running good and to players running bad. I think you can learn alot from stats if you're willing to take the time to dig deep enough.

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so stop obsessing about your numbers and play the best you know how.

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Maybe you're content and happy with your game. I'm not and one way I improve it (or know which areas to improve) is to look at my stats. If you're going to ignore everything in PT besides your VPIP and PFR then what's the point of even having it.

Everyone, don't be afraid to post your BB/Hand for pairs because you think you don't have enough hands. I would still like to get an idea on how everyone wins with their pocket pairs.

Thanks!

Dendrite · #6 08-13-2006, 09:45 PM

.69, large sample.

TomBrooks · #7 08-14-2006, 04:53 AM

.66 Last 100k hands

55 and down are negative except 33 is +.09. There are a few other anomolies like my QQ is higher than my KK. I'd say my sample is big enough to easily glean some general concepts. Probably it would take two or three hundred thousand to refine exactly where everything is falling. Based on what I see, I think I'll look for some marginal situations to fold 55 and down that I was playing before.

I've made 4.9x as much money with just my pairs as I have with all hands combined. (My earnings were cut in half in recent months taking a shot at higher limits, but perhaps the ratio would be the same anyway.)

How do you make this graph?

Dendrite · #8 08-14-2006, 05:40 AM

pokertracker. use the tiny "g" button after you have filtered.

surfsteve · #9 08-14-2006, 07:30 AM

.71 over the last 73K hands. Shown profit with 44 through AA with 33 and 22 neg. My pairs also show 4.3x as much profit as all possible hands combined.

How to make the graph. Haven't done it though but after the filter export the pair stats. Open them in excel, start graph wizzard and select the stats.

Nfinity · #10 08-14-2006, 06:32 AM

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The numbers for everything 44 and after look a bit off. I understand that they shouldn't be as +EV as the others of course, but should they really have a negative expectation? Could this be a bi-product of perhaps factoring in the times you held them PF in the SB or BB, but folded?