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I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
Was trying to mix my game up a little so I raised preflop. I'm new to the table, so no reads.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) MP3 ($100) Hero ($98.90) Button ($32.45) SB ($88.22) BB ($139.29) UTG ($162.89) UTG+1 ($122.04) MP1 ($78.70) MP2 ($18.78) Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $1. SB posts a blind of $0.50. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls $3. Flop: ($9.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $10</font>, Hero ??? Also, what's the plan for the rest of the hand? |
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
This smells like a flushdraw to me, or maybe a T9-two pair. But the flushdraw seems more likely to me. And I think you're behind his then.
I think I'd call and try to see a cheap showdown if no third spade hits the board... |
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
if you bet 7 or so on the flop here, a shove is much less awkward. I like a 3bet to 44 or so, calling a push of course.
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
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if you bet 7 or so on the flop here, a shove is much less awkward. [/ QUOTE ] Why is that? Thanks. |
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
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[ QUOTE ] if you bet 7 or so on the flop here, a shove is much less awkward. [/ QUOTE ] Why is that? Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] Well im assuming he minraises still, and that way the pot is 9+14+14= 37 when you shove for your remaining 60 or so, as opposed to pushing into a pot of 9+10+10=29. EDIT: basically, its less of an overbet if you lead for more. I dont mind 3betting the flop less than all in though, because you are in position. |
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
these check minraises are way more often "see where i'm at" with a junky 10 then a flush draw, IMO. the 1/2pot bet really encourages a cheap bluff on his part. midpair + FD is pretty strong here. whether you push now or push over his turn lead don't matter a lot and are more player-specific.
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
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I dont mind 3betting the flop less than all in though, because you are in position. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm 3-betting, I'm committing to putting it all-in, right? |
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
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This smells like a flushdraw to me, or maybe a T9-two pair. But the flushdraw seems more likely to me. And I think you're behind his then. I think I'd call and try to see a cheap showdown if no third spade hits the board... [/ QUOTE ] This is almost never a flushdraw at PP 100NL IMO. I find it is usually TP or possibly an overpair. Some players will now never fold, others are trying to find out where they are at and will fold to further aggression. You can either 3bet here or call and see what the turn brings. In a vacuum, 3betting is probably better. But it's very player dependent and there are lots of folks at 100NL against whom just calling is best. |
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
IMO you cannot draw any conclusions whatsoever because your flop bet is so weak. Bet around 3/4 pot on the flop always ($7-$8)and villains will pull much less [censored] like that on you.
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Re: I raised with 97s . . . good flop, get mini-checkraised, now what?
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IMO you cannot draw any conclusions whatsoever because your flop bet is so weak. Bet around 3/4 pot on the flop always ($7-$8)and villains will pull much less [censored] like that on you. [/ QUOTE ] I'm a little confused by this, and by others who seem to feel strongly that my flop 1/2 psb was bad here. I thought 1/2 psb bet on the flop following a raise was within an acceptable range, particularly as part of a balanced strategy. I'm not trying to fold out draws; I'm happy to get money in and don't want to scare out TP; also, maybe most importantly, I've made continuation bets that are 1/2 sized the pot, so a similar bet here can tend to disguise my current hand (as well as future continuation bets). Also, what's wrong with making my opponent feel like I'm weak (as some suggest the 1/2 psb does) when I'm actually strong. I appreciate the criticisms -- keep em coming -- but I would like to understand this. |
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