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Old 08-07-2006, 08:03 PM
Pokerho Pokerho is offline
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Default Are the glory days over?

It seems like the $100 6-max NL tables at PP are not nearly as profitable as they were 6 or even 3 months ago. Is it just me having some short term bad luck?

At a 6-max table, it used to be me, 2-3 fish, 2-3 average guys, and maybe 1 other solid player. Now it's 2-3 solid to rockish guys, me and maybe one fish.

Plus it seeme like the fish are crazier too. No more call every hand fish. Now it's call every hand, raise most hands, and have 2nd nuts when you have 3rd nuts fish.

Is it just me?
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:09 PM
Claunchy Claunchy is offline
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

I've been running at over 9 PTBB/100 ever since the Monster promotion started. You're probably just running bad (and I'm probably just running good FWIW).

cts talks about this in the well thread, but table selection is important, especially at 6 max. Don't play at a table that doesn't have any fish at it.
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

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... but table selection is important, especially at 6 max. Don't play at a table that doesn't have any fish at it.

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Hi,

Is VP$IP the only thing you look at, or is there other stats to look for??

// M
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

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... but table selection is important, especially at 6 max. Don't play at a table that doesn't have any fish at it.

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Hi,

Is VP$IP the only thing you look at, or is there other stats to look for??

// M

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preflop isn't a big deal, find ppl that either never fold pairs, or people that fold way to much and extract
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:51 AM
Miraculix Miraculix is offline
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

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... but table selection is important, especially at 6 max. Don't play at a table that doesn't have any fish at it.

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Hi,

Is VP$IP the only thing you look at, or is there other stats to look for??

// M

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preflop isn't a big deal, find ppl that either never fold pairs, or people that fold way to much and extract

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..so I should use the fold flop/fold turn/fold river info from PAHud a lot more when selecting a table? Evan WtSD and W$SD should be usefule here, right?

I´m kind of new to 6max so I try to learn everything I can.

// M
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

if you want fish play nl 2 4 at party. doesn tget any fishier. tis ridiculous the crap they have when the stacks go in.

i also suggest buddy listing frozenbet and playing wherever he is.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

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Now it's call every hand, raise most hands, and have 2nd nuts when you have 3rd nuts fish.

Is it just me?

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It's just you. You just wrote that you're running bad.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

The sky is falling
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:30 PM
4_2_it 4_2_it is offline
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Default Re: Are the glory days over?

Yep. Party, Stars, FT and UB have been invaded by about 100,000 pros who have agreed to split up the various limits and suck the rest of us dry.
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:46 AM
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Yep. Party, Stars, FT and UB have been invaded by about 100,000 pros who have agreed to split up the various limits and suck the rest of us dry.

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I am pro #74,326 and have to say that it's been fun.
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