A3s, okay play?

dun_noo · #1 01-22-2006, 01:37 PM

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (7.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB.

Was my play alright?

Just sat down.

RyanC · #2 01-22-2006, 01:41 PM

Im not thinkig your draws are strong enough for a free card play. You have a backdoor fd and have to spike a 4. But it worked , good job.

dun_noo · #3 01-22-2006, 01:44 PM

That's what I was thinking too, which is why I posted it. I have 4 outs for the near nut straight, 1.5 for the BDFD, and maybe 1.5 for the ace out? I think it's likely he has an overpair here.

Would you say that 7 outs in this rather large pot is enough for a free-card play or not?

dwedeking · #4 01-22-2006, 01:45 PM

I don't think A3s is that good of a hand. I usually just limp in with them (their main strength is flopping a flush draw, with limited strength pairing the aces due to the bad kicker).

I fold the flop. BB 3-bet the pre-flop and comes out of the gate betting (without reads this screams "a hand"). You only beat a bluff on the flop and risk getting 3 bet into with the raise.

Edit: Didn't see the straight draw. I'd just call with this though.

dun_noo · #5 01-22-2006, 01:47 PM

I agree. I usually muck these hands, but my VPIP of 15.5 is too low IMO, and I'm trying to open up my game. Is this simply too marginal?

Gregatron · #6 01-22-2006, 01:55 PM

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I agree. I usually muck these hands, but my VPIP of 15.5 is too low IMO, and I'm trying to open up my game. Is this simply too marginal?

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Folding is certainly better than just calling here, that is for sure. But seriously dude, this is a standard raise here preflop.

Buzz-cp · #7 01-23-2006, 01:24 PM

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I agree. I usually muck these hands, but my VPIP of 15.5 is too low IMO, and I'm trying to open up my game. Is this simply too marginal?

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Folding is certainly better than just calling here, that is for sure. But seriously dude, this is a standard raise here preflop.

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This is one of those situations which may be unconfortable for a lot of new folks. When get called by CO or button, and one or both blinds we must proceed with caution. The post-flop play will depend on the usual factors (opposition, board texture, pot, etc). Nevertheless playing these hands is a good learning experience. I have played a lot of short-handed now, but I am still uncomfortable with these situations!

Gregatron · #8 01-22-2006, 01:53 PM

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I don't think A3s is that good of a hand. I usually just limp in with them (their main strength is flopping a flush draw, with limited strength pairing the aces due to the bad kicker).

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No. This is a standard open raise from the hijack. You should NEVER open limp this from the hijack! A3 is a pretty good shorthanded hand.

dun_noo · #9 01-22-2006, 01:54 PM

Thanks Greg. Should I be making this same raise with unsuited higher aces, like A6/A9?

Gregatron · #10 01-22-2006, 01:58 PM

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Thanks Greg. Should I be making this same raise with unsuited higher aces, like A6/A9?

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Probably. It depends on the situation.

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