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Old 08-04-2006, 01:18 AM
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Default (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

PartyPoker $33 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t4145)
Button (t12140)
Hero (t1340)
BB (t2375)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>

What is the calling range of Villian? Should I push or fold? According to pro tools this is a push if villian is calling with 74% of hands or less and a fold if he is calling with more. Should I take the gamble because I feel that if I win I can play better ITM than my opponents, or should I fold because ICM suggests I do so? Thoughts?
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

Push because math is your friend.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

If you do the ICM calculation the "MATH" says that you should fold this hand. I am pretty sure that BB is calling almost ATC. If he is calling ATC this is a -EV push. That is why I posted it here. I thought that this would be +EV but according to Pro Tools it is not.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

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If you do the ICM calculation the "MATH" says that you should fold this hand. I am pretty sure that BB is calling almost ATC. If he is calling ATC this is a -EV push. That is why I posted it here. I thought that this would be +EV but according to Pro Tools it is not.

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The thing is you say ALMOST any two. AT 85% range this is a push and with your stack you will have SOME FE.
Next time you won't. You have to push here.

Stu
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

No, if you want a .1% edge he has to only be calling with 79%. In this situation he has to call 700 more chips. This being the case, I think that his calling range is higher than 79% and leans towards ATC.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

He's calling less than 80%, I promise. Combine that with the fact that walking him [censored] you in a very bad way, it's a super easy push.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

This is an any two push.
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Old 08-04-2006, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: (33 speed) Push or Fold and why?

push because i love maf. &lt;3 maf.
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