Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-03-2006, 07:23 PM
Garland Garland is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 2,828
Default NL500...Safety play?

Location: Bicycle Casino in Bell Gardens, CA
Stakes: $300-$500 buy-in, $5/$5 blinds
Players: A very tightish passive table. Not a lot of big pots in the few orbits I've been playing. Probably a ** of 5 table.

Principal players:

SB - Young semi-loose player. Not too much known about him.
Stack = $340

BB - Relative unknown Stack = $700

Button - Me with Stack = $600ish

The rest of the table has anywhere from around $300 to $600 chips.

On to the hand:

Preflop: (Pot = $10)

UTG limps, MP limps, CO limps, I find A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and limp. SB checks, BB decides to disturb the party and raise to $25 straight and everyone calls to SB who dejectedly also calls.

Flop: (Pot = $150, 6 players). A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Everyone checks to me. I check?

All comments appreciated. Results forthcoming.

Garland
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-03-2006, 07:26 PM
Parlay Slow Parlay Slow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Proud to be Polish!
Posts: 3,869
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

your pre flop play is uh... hideous
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-03-2006, 07:38 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,248
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

I say the same I said in the other thread, be more aggressive everywhere
Raise preflop and bet that flop for sure
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-03-2006, 07:43 PM
Percula Percula is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 2,050
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

Honestly I don't know what to say, as I have no experience to match or compare to this. I don't think I have ever limp/called a raise with AJs OTB PF in a passive game my whole life.

Not trying to be overly critical here, so I am asking an honest question here... Why are you being so passive? Having a bad run, not enough sleep, too much to drink, some sort of sick read, did you see AA in the blinds hand or something?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-03-2006, 07:47 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: FT
Posts: 8,202
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

Raise preflop, as played bet flop.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-03-2006, 08:02 PM
amoeba amoeba is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,353
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

I think preflop should be raise.

prepare for a lot of "you should bet flop" without any reasoning.

I'm just not looking to put in 1/6 of my stack on this flop, since if called I have about pot left and its pretty damn awkward on a blank turn since you can't make any turn bet without committing yourself.

I think betting flop is pretty bad actually.

especially given bb pfr checked.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-04-2006, 10:56 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 10,570
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

I don't get it.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-04-2006, 11:31 AM
SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,426
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

lol @ this whole thread
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-04-2006, 11:32 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: FT
Posts: 8,202
Default Re: NL500...Safety play?

[ QUOTE ]
lol @ this whole thread

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-04-2006, 01:30 PM
Garland Garland is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 2,828
Default Results and thoughts...

Adjusting to a table full of nits is not my forte as I turn weak-tight myself. It's a leak I'm working on, but to my credit, I would probably request a table change or simply leave and find another game...even limit if that were the only place to get good action.

I felt as if I were at the Venetian all over again. God...what a horror show.

Why didn't I raise preflop? I didn't mind a multi-way field being suited. If I were off-suit, I would definitely raise.

Who the hell is this Leptyne character anyways? I wasn't even aware he made those posts, but I suppose it's funny anyways. No, I don't coach.

Results:

I forgot to mention that SB checked the flop dark.

Turn ($150 pot, 6 players): 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Everyone checks to me, and how I feel that I can bet safely with $100 and take it down, but SB wakes up and min-raises me to $200. I say "you sat on a flush twice?" and fold. He showed T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

I felt that anyone here would slowplay a flush once, but if I bet the flop, I would get called by K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] along with the naked K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] alike and couldn't tell the difference and may have to commit to a lot of chips on the turn drawing possibly dead. If anyone came out firing on the flop or turn, I'd probably release the hand.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Garland
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.