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Old 08-02-2006, 07:41 PM
Pat Southern Pat Southern is offline
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Default 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

I'm pretty sure I messed this hand up, just want to make sure that I'm retarded. $120+100r tournament at Caesars. Starting stacks with rebuy is 4500, about 2 hours in. Just got moved to the table 6 hands ago, I've raised twice, won once preflop and once with a cbet. Villain is a 60-something guy, from appearances he looks like he'd be an ABC player, I havent seen him play a hand yet. Villain has about 7200 to start hand, I have over 10k.

100/200/25a

Folded to me in MP1, I make it 600 with 99. CO calls, villain calls out of the BB.

Flop (3 handed, pot: 2150) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain leads for 350. I raise to 1800. CO folds, villain takes 5 seconds and pushes. He looks pretty comfortable, but is staring me down whenever I glance up at him while counting my chips. Call or fold?
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

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Old 08-03-2006, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

why such a big raise? Actually, why raise at all? IMO raising just gets action from hands that beats you and folds out everything else. You have a marginal made hand, no need to protect it.

Oh, fold.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

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why such a big raise? Actually, why raise at all? IMO raising just gets action from hands that beats you and folds out everything else. You have a marginal made hand, no need to protect it.


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My raise is like 1/2 a pot sized bet, if anything its a little small. I raised the flop because there are a lot of hands with 10+ outs against me that I dont want to give a look at the turn for 1/7 of a pot sized blocking bet, especially on a 3 way flop. I figured the action leading up to the 3 bet was pretty standard. The only reason I can see for not raising the flop is I dont want to open the door for the bet/3bet semibluff.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

as played, fold.

however, against a player like this, you will have NO idea where you are at when he pushes or calls your raise on the flop. (plenty of ABC players simply CANNOT lay down any overpair, ever)

at this level against a standard player i really just want to try and keep the pot small and see the turn.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

this reaks of a pocket pair that you currently have beat, but i CANT call his bet here barring a solid read.

given that i am putting him on an overpair that you have beat, remind yourself that plenty of overcards on the turn will slow him down as well/he is simply trying to take down the pot on the flop.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

i think i'd play it the same and i wudnt say u messed this hand up unless u called his all in. i would fold to his push.
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: 99 overpair facing flop 3 bet

I play it the same, and probably call his shove, because people in these tourneys suck bad.
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